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#1 Debapriyo Sarkar

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:02

Here's another new Windows concept I worked on. What do you think?

 

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#2 +Nik L

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:04

Dude,

 

Have you ever studied any design theory or interface usability?

 

PLEASE - stop throwing these terrible mockups together - "IE 16???" It's just a fanboy's dream mixed with absolutely inconsistent design ideas.  Go learn something about how people use interfaces, how design patterns work and then try again - you should come up with something a bit better :)



#3 OP Debapriyo Sarkar

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:11

Nik L

 

Have you ever studied any design theory or interface usability?

 

Yes I have. I have even worked with a group of people to create a new Linux distro

 

IE 16???

 

It's because its just a concept and in the future

 

 

I understand you didn't like the idea but can you elaborate on how I messed this rather than just saying 'Go do better' :)



#4 Nick H.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:18

I must say, this one is worse than the first design.

Your start menu and taskbar seem separated. Why? The start menu is now longer than it appears to need to be, and the taskbar holding the open applications is too easy to miss.

Do the desktop buttons just sit there all the time?

Curved corners and straight corners on the same application? For some design aspects that may be fine, but you're talking about an application. Curved corners don't have any place there, in my mind.

Would it always say, "hi <user>"? That seems unnecessary, I know who I am when I log on to my machine.

I see you made a comment to Nik L. about how you worked on Linux distributions before. To be honest, it shows in the design of these concepts - although considering I'm running Linux I again don't consider that to be good or bad, it's just not Windows.

#5 +Nik L

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:19

Have you ever studied any design theory or interface usability?

Yes I have. I have even worked with a group of people to create a new Linux distro

 

 

Studied and applied?  Sorry but this is a mess.  None of the ideas hold together well at all.  They are taken from various different inspirations and thrown in the mix.  Please post a screenshot of this Linux distro and what were your contibutions?

 

I understand you didn't like the idea but can you elaborate on how I messed this rather than just saying 'Go do better'

Yes.  Go and study.  Read some Jakob Nielsen, go and read the reasons and rationale behind some of the words better performing GUIs.  Don't just pick and choose elements from a random distro, a mac, object dock and photoshop them together.

 

Most designs start with a theory. A working document on how to apply the design consistently and what the interaction will mean to the user.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:46

It reminds me of a rainlendar theme.



#7 OP Debapriyo Sarkar

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:49

@Nick H.
 
Your start menu and taskbar seem separated. Why?
 
Yes I deliberately separated them. That way users can pin more shortcuts on their panel which has the start button. Also if users hide the panel, they still have the taskbar
 
Do the desktop buttons just sit there all the time?
 
Which buttons are you talking about? Are you talking about the application shortcuts in desktop? They are not buttons. They are shortcuts to applications which also allows the user to add a handy note to the shortcut like 'Need to send mail to Jimmy in evening'
 
 
Curved corners and straight corners on the same application?
 
Yes this design feature has been used in multiple operating systems including Mac OS. See link below
 
 
 
Would it always say, "hi <user>"? That seems unnecessary, I know who I am when I log on to my machine.
 
Welcoming the user after a successful login is a standard practice for a lot of user interfaces be it Web or OS. Check Windows Live, Gmail, Yahoo. Do you expect an user interface to show 'Login successful and you already know your damn name'
 
 
I see you made a comment to Nik L. about how you worked on Linux distributions before. To be honest, it shows in the design of these concepts - although considering I'm running Linux I again don't consider that to be good or bad, it's just not Windows. 
 
Linux and Windows are both Operating Systems which present the user with a desktop environment. And yes I like Linux and all variations of it's Desktop environment (Gnome, Xfce, Lxde, Cinnamon) are far more superior when compared to Windows Metro UI and Windows needs to evolve beyond just being Windows to survive. The Windows 8 idea of one OS that fits in both tablets and PC was itself taken from Ubuntu. Windows Vista was heavily inspired by Mac
 
But thanks for your feedback anyways :)


#8 OP Debapriyo Sarkar

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:53

 
+Nik L
 
Yes.  Go and study.  Read some Jakob Nielsen, go and read the reasons and rationale behind some of the words better performing GUIs.  Don't just pick and choose elements from a random distro, a mac, object dock and photoshop them together.
 
LOL, You basicaly said the same thing again. And no they are not just taken from various different inspirations and thrown in the mix. See my reply to Nick H


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:01

The close minimise buttons are outdated design.
Excessive usage of transparency.
Design has lost the very essence of being Windows. Maybe it can pass off as some obscure Linux distro. But that is definitely not windows.

Sorry to shred your design to pieces. But start from current Windows 8.1 flat style and build up on that. That's where Microsoft is heading.

#10 Nick H.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:01

I deliberately separated them. That way users can pin more shortcuts on their panel which has the start button. Also if users hide the panel, they still have the taskbar.

While I don't agree with the reasoning I can slightly understand it. However, that still leaves you with the problem that now your start menu is covering a wide area of your screen while only being one button on the far left and the time on the far right. It's a bad use of space, unless there is something that would go inbetween. Even then though, a bar above a bar seems inconvenient.
 

Which buttons are you talking about? Are you talking about the application shortcuts in desktop? They are not buttons. They are shortcuts to applications which also allows the user to add a handy note to the shortcut like 'Need to send mail to Jimmy in evening'

I was referring to the buttons that say, "desktop 1, desktop 2" etc. Again, if they are always going to sit there then they're taking up too much screen space. 
 

Yes this design feature has been used in multiple operating systems including Mac OS. See link below
 
http://csongi.devian...sstyle-75408623

The glaring difference between your concept above and the one that you linked to is that OS X's curved corners are so small as to almost be pointed. Your corners mean that once again you're not using the screen space appropriately. If you were to put applications side by side, you'd have holes all over the screen where the desktop would poke through.
 
 

Welcoming the user after a successful login is a standard practice for a lot of user interfaces be it Web or OS. Check Windows Live, Gmail, Yahoo. Do you expect an user interface to show 'Login successful and you already know your damn name'

After a successful login, fine. That was why I asked if it was always going to remain on the screen, or perhaps fade away after a moment. In the case of Hotmail and Gmail, they're located in the top right hand corners, not 1/6th of the way up your screen like in your design above.
 
 

Linux and Windows are both Operating Systems which present the user with a desktop environment. And yes I like Linux and all variations of it's Desktop environment (Gnome, Xfce, Lxde, Cinnamon) are far more superior when compared to Windows Metro UI and Windows needs to evolve beyond just being Windows to survive. The Windows 8 idea of one OS that fits in both tablets and PC was itself taken from Ubuntu. Windows Vista was heavily inspired by Mac

Well that's a matter of opinion. I don't have a preference over any workspace, but there is something distinctly Windows about Windows - whether that be Windows 95 or Windows 8 - and the design above looks distinctly like Linux. If that's the route you want to go then fine, but be aware that this means that your design is less, "what I think Windows will look like" and more "what I wish Windows would look like."

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 16:21

Perhaps you could consider the top five most easily accessible points on a user's screen and consider placing important UI elements in some of those locations. I see that you've arranged the interface to allow users to overshoot said elements such as the desktop switcher or the Start button - you have not exploited the fact that not all areas of the screen are equal in accessibility and users of this design will suffer as a result.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 16:32

I hate to say it, but you took the worst design elements from XP, Vista, 7, and Linux, and threw them together in a mashup that I can't make heads or tails of. There's way too much 3D in this.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 16:50

Well....  You asked for a honest opinion... ;-)

 

It is a jumbled mess. I have no idea how the Linux distro looks like, but if this is any example to it, I petty the users.

Seriously, have a good look at the current design directions, and try to build upon that.

 

I have seen some really good Windows UI mockup on deviantART and such, I suggest you have a look at those.

 

This is just way too much a 'stepping away' from the dektop as it is. And you saw what happended with -JUST- the start screen ;-)

 

 

edit: This one is nice : http://www.theverge....ktop-ui-concept

edit : And there are some exxamples here: http://www.deviantar...m/?q=windows UI



#14 Crisp

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 16:53

I like drizzle.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 17:02

Wow, tough crowd. :(