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#1 thatguyandrew1992

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 23:02

Hey all,

I would like to buy some new harddrives.

 

I would like 2, 4TB hdds for storage only. It won't run Windows, games or any software. I'm thinking about this drive. Thoughts?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822236604

 

 

I would also like a new SSD. Mine is 120GB and is just to small! I feel like I've seen a lot about Samsung SSDs. I was looking at these 2. I could wait  a couple weeks for the new Samsung if it would be worth it.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147193

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147360

 

But then I saw this 512GB Crucial!!!  I really love the amount of storage! Is it going to be a lot slower than the Samsung?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148821

 

Will any of these SSDs be slower than my current SSD?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820167121




#2 SinsOfCube

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 23:18

WD Green drives are great for storage, got 4 of them, 2x 2TB and 2x 3TB.

 

The new Samsung 850 Pro drives aren't worth the wait, you won't notice a differance in using an 840 or 850 since both are maxing out the SATA3 connection. I think the 850 should last longer than a 840, but the chances of either drive reaching their end of life during average or above average use are already slim.

 

The Crucial is just slightly slower than the samsung drives in benchmarks, but in real life use, you won't be able to tell the differance. The Samsung drives' main point over the Crucial mx100 is that they've already proven to be extremely reliable. This doesn't mean the MX100's aren't, it just means they haven't been on the market for as long. I'm currently using a 512GB MX100 as a gaming drive and I'm really happy with it.

 

Both the Samsung and Crucial SSDs won't be slower than your current SSD.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 23:30

Oh yeah - greens are great --- if you want them to die -

If you are putting anything of value on there dont pinch pennies

The crucial MX100 are cheap & fast = they are a new line of drives and are poised to bring down the price points of the other manufacturers. (we hope)


What are the rest of your system specs - I see a lot of possible spending with little or no increase in speed -  what is it you are trying to achieve ?


Oh - and get a Caviar Black, or Blue - not green.




 



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 23:41

What is your budget? Samsung 850 Pro is the new top dog in terms of SSD but do you really need that? You'd be better served with an 512GB 840 EVO at a much better price point. MX100 has just come out as a replacement to the M500 series of consumer budget drives. I'd let it mature a bit more before diving into it. 840 EVOs on the other hand, have been tried and tested and tested again. I'd go with one of those.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 23:45

Oh yeah - greens are great --- if you want them to die -

If you are putting anything of value on there dont pinch pennies

The crucial MX100 are cheap & fast = they are a new line of drives and are poised to bring down the price points of the other manufacturers. (we hope)


What are the rest of your system specs - I see a lot of possible spending with little or no increase in speed -  what is it you are trying to achieve ?


Oh - and get a Caviar Black, or Blue - not green.




 

I have a Core i7 3770, 16gb ram and GTX 460.  This isn't about speed though. I need more storage. :)

 

I've heard that the Black drives are loud. Do you find this to be true? I really don't want a louder system. Any opinions on the Red drives? I don't have a NAS, but does it matter?



#6 OP thatguyandrew1992

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 23:49

What is your budget? Samsung 850 Pro is the new top dog in terms of SSD but do you really need that? You'd be better served with an 512GB 840 EVO at a much better price point. MX100 has just come out as a replacement to the M500 series of consumer budget drives. I'd let it mature a bit more before diving into it. 840 EVOs on the other hand, have been tried and tested and tested again. I'd go with one of those.

I'm trying to stay under $600. Paying for the 512GB Samsungs is too much, that's for sure. Going with drives that are known to be good, is good for sure, but the price and size on that Crucial is hard to resist!



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 00:05

I've been running dual Seagate ST4000DM000 4 TB in my DS214play NAS for several months with zero problems.

 

I've been running dual  Seagate ST3000DM001 3TB in my workstation for several months with zero problems.

 

You don't need to spend a fortune to get great reliability, at a great price. All drives fail, eventually, so don't just rely on one drive, or one solution for data backup. 



#8 T3X4S

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:37

If its not about speed, then get a blue

Someone else will have to comment on the Red when not in a NAS environment -

I have never, and will never like the green - they are inferior and the "energy saving" is BS marketing jargon for "if we run it at the normal 7200 RPM it will fail miserably"

I have always favored WD over Seagate - its just a personal preference
Personally, if I am saving 4TB of anything - it must be important - and I dont want to add any unnecessary possibilty of failure (inferior products) so I always get enterprise class stuff
Its all about law of averages & chances are they will last longer than the cheap stuff...

Take this with a grain of salt - I dont know what prices are for those drives you are looking at - but I do know I'd take a blue over a green. ;)



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:57

I typically get Hitachi when possible.  I've had better luck with them than WD or Seagate.  I used to be a big fan of Seagate, but no more.

 

This might be interesting for you:

http://geekbeat.tv/t...s-for-your-nas/

 

I do have 8 Reds in a Drobo for a little over a year with no failures.

 

You can have bad luck with any brand, really.  I've bought Samsung and Toshiba drives as well, but only a few, and no issues with them.  I always get 7200rpm drives, though, even for storage.  I've used the "eco" drives in the past and not worth it if you move files around any amount. 



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:41

When I buy hard drives for myself I buy WD Reds for everything. I also like WD return procedure. If something does need to be sent back I find WD a lot easier than Seagate.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 05:48

I typically get Hitachi when possible.  I've had better luck with them than WD or Seagate.  I used to be a big fan of Seagate, but no more.

 

WD owns them.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:34

I'm trying to stay under $600. Paying for the 512GB Samsungs is too much, that's for sure. Going with drives that are known to be good, is good for sure, but the price and size on that Crucial is hard to resist!

 

If you want performance, the 256GB Samsung 850 Pro is the way to go. It's a top of the line SSD while the MX100 is the mainstream brand for Crucial. And at that price difference from the 840 Pro, there is no way to say no.

 

As for the drives, avoid WD Green. Get a WD Blue or a Seagate drive.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 15:19

Thanks for all the advice, to people with WD Reds, would they be fine in a normal desktop? Should I go with them?



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 15:26

If you want to RAID, yes, otherwise, no.