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#16 OP Orange Battery

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 21:11

Assuming you were using Hyper-V to run older OSes, you might want to try this since you prefer Virtual PC: :)
http://www.neowin.ne...s-8-rtm-64-bit/

Thanks, I've already successfully implemented this, I just wish we didn't need to.


#17 Zac Bowden

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 13:44

I just want a 'desktop first' approach in Threshold. I'm not a bad person. I promise.



#18 bithush

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 14:03

What Windows needs is up to date (I would say modern but I don't want metro apps, proper desktop apps please!) for Notepad, Paint, Photo and Video management, music management, etc.

 

One of the strongest things about OS X to me is how it comes complete out of the box with some great apps such as iTunes (hate it all you want, it does its job well), iMovie, iPhoto, etc. I really miss the completeness of OS X when I use Windows. They made some progress with adding new modern apps in Windows 8 to do some stuff but they are still crappy. Windows Media Player has had no love over the past few years. Manageing multimedia formats is a pain in the ass on Windows. Sure iTunes isn't perfect but at least it is something that is functional. I can't even edit MP3 tags in WMP anymore. I don't want to have to go and get third party apps to do these basic tasks. Why can't I easily trim a video I took and re-encode it to a smaller file size out of the box? Why can't I manage my 10,000 photo library? Why can't I organise my 30GB music library easily? Why is Notepad still basically the same app that came with Windows 95? Why does it not have spell check? Why is there no dictionary app built into Windows? Why is Paint still basically the same as what came with Windows 95 (with the exception of now it has the ribbon)?

 

Windows as an experience is very lacking in my experience and opinion. I would love to see Microsoft provide a full consumer computeing experience out of the box with Windows 9 rather than just an operating system.



#19 bithush

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 14:06

AS I work my way through setting up Win 8.1 I'm finding more:

 

Internet Explorer – Allow me to drag a link from the address bar onto the desktop without creating the annoying .website link and reopening the site for no reason.  A simple .URL shortcut was fine and very easy to manage – if you really want to have this feature then give me the option to switch it off in settings – not just insist on a Shift-and drag

 

Hyper-V – I’m reliably informed that this is much better than the humble VirtualPC but as a normal home user all I miss is shared cut and paste along with shared copy and paste – I’ve now moved to VMware player which is nowhere near as good as VirtualPC – I would have paid MS  for it as they done it so well.

 

Try out VirtualBox, it is free and has lots more features over Virtual PC. If you want the ultimate in desktop VMs though check out VMware Workstation. Nothing is faster or more feature-full :)



#20 OP Orange Battery

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 16:30

Another one for the 'It's available elsewhere by MS and could be so handy" - Multiple clipboard entries - Turned off by default for the basic users but such a great tool for the more experienced.  Options like removing formatting, text only or limited entries to store would make it ideal.  The current clipboard managers are so full of bloat and junk - something along the lines of the old ClipX would be great.

 

 

Try out VirtualBox, it is free and has lots more features over Virtual PC. If you want the ultimate in desktop VMs though check out VMware Workstation. Nothing is faster or more feature-full :)

 

Wasn't a huge fan of this when testing it a few weeks ago - copy and paste between VM and desktop wasn't reliable and so VMWare Player beat it - thanks for your help tho, could have worked out :-)



#21 MASTER260

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 02:01

notification archive.

Isn't that in Android and iOS? lol.

#22 +Quillz

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 18:17

I just want some UI consistency. I really don't understand why there are still 9x-era icons in Windows, or Control Panel applets that still open in their own window. Or the usage of battleship gray here but not there. I understand Windows has thousands of icons, but what I don't understand is why they don't seem to employ a graphics team that simply creates a system-wide sense of consistency.



#23 Studio384

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 21:24

What Windows needs is up to date (I would say modern but I don't want metro apps, proper desktop apps please!) for Notepad, Paint, Photo and Video management, music management, etc.

 

One of the strongest things about OS X to me is how it comes complete out of the box with some great apps such as iTunes (hate it all you want, it does its job well), iMovie, iPhoto, etc. I really miss the completeness of OS X when I use Windows. They made some progress with adding new modern apps in Windows 8 to do some stuff but they are still crappy. Windows Media Player has had no love over the past few years. Manageing multimedia formats is a pain in the ass on Windows. Sure iTunes isn't perfect but at least it is something that is functional. I can't even edit MP3 tags in WMP anymore. I don't want to have to go and get third party apps to do these basic tasks. Why can't I easily trim a video I took and re-encode it to a smaller file size out of the box? Why can't I manage my 10,000 photo library? Why can't I organise my 30GB music library easily? Why is Notepad still basically the same app that came with Windows 95? Why does it not have spell check? Why is there no dictionary app built into Windows? Why is Paint still basically the same as what came with Windows 95 (with the exception of now it has the ribbon)?

 

Windows as an experience is very lacking in my experience and opinion. I would love to see Microsoft provide a full consumer computeing experience out of the box with Windows 9 rather than just an operating system.

I can tell you that we probably won't see any updates to Notepad and Paint and any other Win32 app other then File Explorer and Internet Explorer anytime soon. I wouldn't be surprised if all Win32 apps will be gone in some release in advance of their WinRT counterpart. Microsoft wants to bring Modern UI apps to the desktop, no doubt that this also means that developers will be able to make their app resond to that and give a responsive interface, making it a mous and keyboard friendly app when run on the desktop.



#24 Deactivated.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 22:45

I fail; to see what's better about tabs, than open windows side-by-side?

You don't use tabs even in your browser?  :huh:



#25 Dot Matrix

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Posted Yesterday, 02:20

You don't use tabs even in your browser?  :huh:

I use tabs in my browser, but File Explorer isn't the same has a browser.



#26 Stoffel

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Posted Yesterday, 03:01

Now that we know that the charms-bar is going away, I hope they incorporate some of it's functionality in a new notification center that works very similar to WP8.1

Mainly the settings charm.

I also hope we get the same management options for the start screen that we have now in WP8.1. When you move a tile in WP you don't ruin the rest of all your tile positions. Live Folders would be nice too.

 

One last thing I hope for is co-ownership finally making it's way to OneDrive. Why can't we share our pictures folder for instance with family nd everybody is allowed to add/edit/delete pics from the folder



#27 wrack

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Posted Yesterday, 03:01

I want a way to never combine certain application instances and combine rest on the taskbar.



#28 Ian William

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Posted Yesterday, 05:01

Isn't that in Android and iOS? lol.

I believe so, yes. It is interesting to note that Microsoft had planned to include this feature in Windows all the way back in 2003 - before Android or iOS even existed. Also, I have yet to see an instance of this feature as thorough as the one described in those guidelines.

Examples . . .
 

"Longhorn" notifications put users in control of when and how they receive notifications. For example, users can appropriately degrade or upgrade the urgency of a given notification. They can set times during which notifications are prohibited, such as when a full-screen application is running or when the user is in a meeting. Users can also turn off notifications from a particular source, and they can decide whether notifications should make a sound when they are displayed.

 

Because notifications are lightweight UI, they appear on the screen briefly and then disappear. In "Longhorn," notifications with fewer than two lines of text appear for four seconds before timing out. Longer notifications time out after eight seconds. A dynamic timer bar to the right of the notification informs users of the time-out process. Like sand falling out of the top half of an hourglass, the color in the timer bar gets shorter as time runs out. However, the timer stops whenever the cursor pauses over the notification. And users can adjust the timer so that notifications stay on the screen for a longer or shorter amount of time than the default time.

Similar features would be perfect for Windows 9/Threshold/vNext.



#29 blerk

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Posted Yesterday, 05:15

At this point, all I want is a good search function. 

 

Both the Explorer and Modern search functions are broken and missing many features.