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#1 compl3x

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 03:35

The Xbox One has been selling better now that there's a Kinect-free version of the system available for $399, right in line with the PlayStation 4. You'd sure hope so!

 

Microsoft isn't providing specifics but says "Since the new Xbox One offering launched on June 9th, we've seen sales of Xbox One more than double in the US, compared to sales in May, and solid growth in Xbox 360 sales." This stems from "internal data based on retail calendar and sold-through numbers." The NPD's hardware and software figures will be out soon enough.

 

Even with increased sales in June, I'm expecting the PS4 to outsell Xbox One yet again.

 

Xbox One Sales More Than Double in June with New $399 Option and Unveiling of Holiday Games Lineup [Xbox]

 

http://www.destructo...ct-278244.phtml

 

 

Wonderful.




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Posted 17 July 2014 - 03:40

So have we decided if its because Kinect is gone or because of the cheaper price?

 

I guess its all just subjective anyway.

 

Better sales can only be good news.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 03:48

^ That was what I was going to ask, is it because of the price drop? <curiosity, nothing else, I don't really care what someone is spending their money on>



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 03:50

So have we decided if its because Kinect is gone or because of the cheaper price?

 

 

 

Or it could be both. Getting rid of something people don't want and lowering the price of something people do.

 

It's just too bad MS had to do this whole Kinect dance in the first place.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 03:59

Or it could be both. Getting rid of something people don't want and lowering the price of something people do.

 

It's just too bad MS had to do this whole Kinect dance in the first place.

 

 

That is possible too. People will believe what they want to believe.

 

I mean the author of the article clearly believes that Kinect is the reason, hence the title.

 

I agree though, MS should have not attempted another Kinect release. Damage done.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 04:05

I would chalk it up to the price cut. If the Xbox One were $399 w/Kinect, I think it would increase sales even more. Curiosity would make people fiddle with it at least once. And there's nothing like a "Free Pack In"...

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 04:26

MS won't provide the Kinect at a loss. I can understand why.

 

The only way to tell is to have both available and see which one people are moire likely to buy. But they obviously aren't going to do something like that.

 

What we could look at is how many people buy Kinects individually.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 04:42

MS won't provide the Kinect at a loss. I can understand why.

 

The only way to tell is to have both available and see which one people are moire likely to buy. But they obviously aren't going to do something like that.

 

What we could look at is how many people buy Kinects individually.

 

 

That would only be helpful if Kinect is sold for $100 separately, which I have my doubts it will.

 

The cost to MS was estimated to be $200-$250 at launch and the pc version is $199, so I would guess no less then $149.

 

Plus, you have to factor in the effect of negative word of mouth. Most online are pushing the idea that its silly to buy into it at all now that MS has 'abandoned' it. True or not, that filters down to the general consumer.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 04:59

abandoned

nah, Microsoft are known to re-use stuff that previously 'rejected'.

i wont surprise me if kinect would be re-branded as "Microsoft's Advanced & Multipurpose WebCam" or something similar like that, complete with wireless function that can be used by PC or Smartphone (WP) or Tablet (Surface).



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 05:02

nah, Microsoft are known to re-use stuff that previously 'rejected'.

i wont surprise me if kinect would be re-branded as "Microsoft's Advanced & Multipurpose WebCam" or something similar like that, complete with wireless function that can be used by PC or Smartphone (WP) or Tablet (Surface).

 
Too late for that, Kinect v2 for pc is already coming.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 05:29

At some point, with the way things are going, the Kinect technology will be it's own thing and not something directly pushed by and tied to Xbox, for now it has to but as it's used more on the PC side and by other non-gaming projects that could change.  Not that it would matter to MS, they sell the PC version for more (though you get other things with it of course, not just the hardware).

 

I always pictured this tech sold to TV and Monitor companies, once MS can make it smaller, and have it be a option inside your TV or PC monitor.

The usefulness for a TV user is something we already see through using it on the Xbox.  Now with the PC, it's not so much about the hand gestures or w/e, it could be good for security, it can see who's sitting at the PC and trying to use it, for one.  But it's all about the voice controls really, and we know Cortana is coming to Windows (as well as Xbox) so I figure it'd be perfect to have a Kinectified 24" or 30" monitor that would let me do voice commands and use Cortana on my new Windows 9 install. 

 

Anyways, as far as the boost in sales, it's price + MS having a good showing at E3 and people interested in the games that are coming this fall and holiday 2014.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:43

Not as great as you'd expect, if it was only double May's sales (which was really low), they sold 150~K :/



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:05

I guess I would add one more +1 to the "because of the price drop" and not because of Kinect removal.

 

So have we decided if its because Kinect is gone or because of the cheaper price?

 

I guess its all just subjective anyway.

 

Better sales can only be good news.

It's not even better sales, more like "normal" sales given that May took a hit because of the early Kinect-less SKU announcement.

 

^ That was what I was going to ask, is it because of the price drop? <curiosity, nothing else, I don't really care what someone is spending their money on>

not really price drop :p but I see what you mean.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:14

I guess I would add one more +1 to the "because of the price drop" and not because of Kinect removal.

but this "price drop" is mainly caused by Kinect removal.

and this sales boost caused by previously said "price drop".

 

Lets not forgot why price drop was possible.



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:48

but this "price drop" is mainly caused by Kinect removal.

and this sales boost caused by previously said "price drop".

 

Lets not forgot why price drop was possible.

I think they would have had a similar bump if they went down to $399 with Kinect. In other words, sales increased because of the lower price and not because there is now a Kinect-less SKU.

They didn't sell that many to begin with, the "Double over May" is just a PR spin.