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#1 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 16:29

So within the past few months, I've really not been liking Gmail. It's very clear to me now that they no longer have me (the customer) in mind, but their own pocket book and agenda. 

 

So I'm looking for a new email...but I'm kinda going back and forth with myself which one to choose. 

 

Here's some of the problems I have:

 

  • Google - Profiles individuals, collects data like they're postage stamps
  • Microsoft - Ties me to a platform, Outlook account deleted after a year of inactivity (What if I die or I get in a legal mess? My family doesn't know how to get accounts and data from it) , more than likely also profiles you and your data. 
  • Apple iCloud - Ties me to an expensive platform. Not really supported outside of Apple Products
  • Yahoo - Might as well buy a stone tablet and chisel words into it.
  • AOL - LOL! They are still around?
  • Buying a domain and rolling my own - I do one thing wrong. ONE. My domain is blacklisted as a spam address...or worse....plus...my family does not know how to maintain the server or get data from it in case of emergency.
  • The little guys - Fastmail, Countermail, etc. They can disappear tomorrow like lavabit. Not a very good longterm solution.

 

I can't just "pick a platform and go with it". I use OS X, I use Windows, Linux, etc. I just want a neutral and stable platform that's going to be around for a while. 

 

I'm really thinking Google is my only option here. Am I boned? 




#2 Roger H.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 16:41

I don't think if you have your own domain it would get blacklisted that easily and there are options for that as well. I use Office 365 for my "work" stuff but my personal has been on Live.com/Outlook.com for years now. Not that I need more and barely anyone emails me anymore anyways.

 

I'd do my own Exchange Server but as mentioned the costs don't justify it right now because I don't get enough usage of email to make it worth it, that applies to "work" stuff as well.



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 16:42

Sounds like you havent thought about this much.
 
Google - Profiles individuals, collects data like they're postage stamps
 
To be honest the cleanest of interfaces though. 
 
Microsoft - Ties me to a platform, Outlook account deleted after a year of inactivity (What if I die or I get in a legal mess? My family doesn't know how to get accounts and data from it) , more than likely also profiles you and your data. 
 
Not really. The android app is good for Outlook. And seriously that's what you thought about when you look for an E-Mail. Document it WELL!! For that case. 
 
Apple iCloud - Ties me to an expensive platform. Not really supported outside of Apple Products
 
Again. Not really. You can access this on a myriad of devices. Web iCloud works well on any platform you choose, Windows Linux etc. 
 
Yahoo - Might as well buy a stone tablet and chisel words into it
Its actually one of their most popular products. 
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AOL - LOL! They are still around?
No Idea
 
Buying a domain and rolling my own - I do one thing wrong. ONE. My domain is blacklisted as a spam address...or worse....plus...my family does not know how to maintain the server or get data from it in case of emergency.
Is that what you think about? really? Document it. Buy a domain WITH E-Mail on it from say 123Reg as an example. I only say this because I use them. 
 
The little guys - Fastmail, Countermail, etc. They can disappear tomorrow like lavabit. Not a very good longterm solution.
 
Don't know about these guys but they probably have a passionate team behind it. 
 
 
......freeukmail.net This was set up as a project of someone I know. Try that? 
 


#4 Stoffel

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 16:52

I moved to outlook.com a couple of years ago and i'm very happy about the service

They have apps for all platforms, and the browser experience is excellent in my opinion



#5 ajua

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 17:16

Outlook.com is the most supported for multi-platform if that's what the OP is after. From the web client to the mobile apps, it works really well.

 

I use it with my own domain but I don't know if the date limit for that feature has passed or not because Microsoft was migrating it for Office 365 for Business only. I think it's already due but I'm not sure. In any case, getting a domain and adding it to Outlook.com as a secondary works too.



#6 Shadrack

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 17:23

iCloud is not tied to iOS devices.  Email can be accessed via IMAP, Calendar and Tasks via CardDAV, and Contacts via CalDAV.  IMAP Push is supported, but not necessarily working on every platform at the moment.

 

In fact, Windows Phone 8.1 has "iCloud" account as an option for syncing with.  The only platform that isn't supported well is Android, and that is because Google doesn't support the open CardDAV and CalDAV standards out-of-the-box (but can be added via 3rd party apps, I hear).  Google is walking away from open standards in general (Gmail API, anyone?) , so I would not recommend using them as a cross-platform solution.

 

iCloud also works well with Outlook for Windows so long as you use the iCloud Windows Control Panel that Apple provides for syncing.

 

Outlook.com Contacts and Calendar syncing will not work on Mac (even Outlook 2011 for Mac doesn't properly support it).  On platforms that support Exchange Activesync, it isn't as much of an issue.  Outlook.com is probably the best "mobile" solution (as it supports PUSH across the board because of Activesync), but what kept me from using it was the lack of support on Mac. 



#7 xendrome

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 17:36

OP, everyone "Profiles individuals, collects data like they're postage stamps", it's called targeted advertising. And it's happening everywhere, brings more ROI for the company providing you free services.



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 17:44

I much prefer to run my own email server. I find that running your own makes you less dependent on the whims of a service provider. If you have the skills and hardware I would highly recommend it.

#9 OP f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 17:54

Question: If I create an Outlook.com account and sync it with Outlook on the desktop will it automatically pull down my calendars and contacts? 



#10 rfirth

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 17:56

Microsoft - Ties me to a platform, Outlook account deleted after a year of inactivity (What if I die or I get in a legal mess? My family doesn't know how to get accounts and data from it) , more than likely also profiles you and your data

 

That's explicitly forbidden in their Terms of Service. They don't mine your email. This is their biggest anti-Google talking point, so it's not likely to change.

 

And it doesn't tie you to a platform.

 

 

Question: If I create an Outlook.com account and sync it with Outlook on the desktop will it automatically pull down my calendars and contacts? 

 

Of course!



#11 Thingol

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 18:07

You can try Yandex, but Gmail is the best one.



#12 HDavid

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 18:12

outlook.com



#13 OP f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 18:14

That's explicitly forbidden in their Terms of Service. They don't mine your email. This is their biggest anti-Google talking point, so it's not likely to change.

 

And it doesn't tie you to a platform.

 

 

 

Of course!

 

Reeaallyy??? *strokes goatee*

 

Yup. Here it is: http://windows.micro...-faq?crea=58476



#14 Zlain

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 18:24

You go online and your privacy is at risk. It makes next to no difference whether you use MS, google, Apple or whatever. They'll all collect some form of data, I can guarantee you that. I only use gmail because I don't like the outlook interface. Its not always obvious where to click things for me. I like the simple layout of gmail. Some people still do use yahoo. 



#15 sc302

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 19:05

gmail to do an overhaul.  You may not like the current interface but that will change.  I reason to believe it is a change similar to the hotmail to outlook.com change.

http://thenextweb.co...w-gmail-layout/