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#1 FlailingCamper

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:26

I've wanted to build a gaming computer for some time now and so i thought i might as well do it now. I'm going to try to stay under $500. I already have a hard drive and OS (that im putting on the SSD). This is my first build so some things will probably sound completely dumb. please, be gentle. Ill attempt to give additional information as requested. Im actually new to the site as well......Thanks

 

CPU:                   AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core                            $90.00
Thermal Compound:   Arctic Silver Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 25g           $6.24
Motherboard:           Biostar A88M Micro ATX FM2+                                 $59.49                          
RAM:       Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $74.99
storage:                 Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" SSD                                     $72.00
Video Card:            Asus GeForce GT 630 2GB                                       $49.99
Case:                    BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower                    $52.99
Power Supply:            Antec 450W ATX12V                                           $37.99
Optical Drive:            LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer                                $21.74
Case Fan (x2):            Cougar CF-D12HB-B 64.4 CFM 120mm                $14.99
                            Cougar CF-D12HB-B 64.4 CFM 120mm                         $14.99
                                                                     
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Best Answer LaP , 23 July 2014 - 23:12

I don't think you should wait if you don't want to. The first PC i built was a Duron 1GZ with a Radeon 7000. Was crap but i was able to play Half Life 2 with it. It will give you exp about building comp and what to look for.

 

This is the best i can come with if you really want the ssd and a computer than can handle itself for a while with an eventual gpu upgrade. If you don't have enough money you can drop the ssd and use your old hdd for now and upgrade it to an ssd later.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/87srRB

 

[edit] If you need to save more money you can cut on the optimal drive. I did select one reading blue-ray but you could save 10$ by selecting one reading just dvd. You could save money on the motherboard by choosing a micro atx motherboard instead. But the micro atx mbs while less exp have less bells and whistles. But that's an option that would reduce the price by another 20$ and maybe even 30$. You can maybe save another 5$ or 10$ more on the ram by selecting cl9 ram. I would not spend less on the cpu, gpu and psu. People always try to save on PSU but a good psu with more than enough power usually will likely make your pc last longer. I've seen many pc die on crap 400W psu.

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#2 LaP

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:38

Question why do you buy themal paste without any aftermarket cooler? The default cooler coming with the cpu surely has pre-aplied thermal paste on it.

 

The case doesn't come with its own case fan?

 

Not sure about Biostar. Never actually saw any of those in a gaming computer. Did you check ASRock? They usually make cheap but good motherboard but that was 10 years ago maybe they are more expensive now.

 

Is the 630 really more powerful that the best AMD apu? I would check if i were you first. The A10 is probably not more expensive then a8 + gt 630 and might perform better as the gt 630 aint a good card.  Also the a10 from the cpu perspective is more future proof when you'll upgrade the gpu.

 

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Honestly i don't see the point of buying an AMD APU to team it with an entry level gpu. The APU (specially on AMD side) already has an entry level gpu inside. If you decide the go the APU only route for now (and add a good gpu later) then consider upgrading the ram if it can be done for cheap. 2000+ ram can help an APU a lot.

 

AMD A10-7850 170$

G.Skill 8GB DDR3 2133 CL10 85$

Gigabyte/msi/asrock MB standard model 50$

storage m500 ssd 75$

case any mid tower case by coolermaster or such 50$

power supply corsair 600W 70$

LG dvd 20$

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520

 

That would be more future proof if you want to upgrade the gpu later. All price on newegg.com



#3 LaP

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:49

Case : http://www.newegg.co...7-153-_-Product (probably not a great one but on a budget it includes the fans)

CPU : http://www.newegg.co...3-359-_-Product

PSU : http://www.newegg.co...8-014-_-Product

ram : http://www.newegg.co...1-689-_-Product

mb : i don't have time to check for a compatible one but i've seen some asus and gigabyte at 60$. But they have 2 memory slots if you want 4 slots you'll need to pay 70$



#4 +warwagon

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:10

 I pointed him to Neowin told him to create an account and have everyone look over his specs.

 

Wecome to Neowin!

 

Love the screen name by the way.



#5 T3X4S

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:02

Try the DIY SuperCombos on Newegg

 

 
 

 



#6 OP FlailingCamper

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 13:27

Question why do you buy themal paste without any aftermarket cooler? The default cooler coming with the cpu surely has pre-aplied thermal paste on it.

 

The case doesn't come with its own case fan?

 

Not sure about Biostar. Never actually saw any of those in a gaming computer. Did you check ASRock? They usually make cheap but good motherboard but that was 10 years ago maybe they are more expensive now.

 

Is the 630 really more powerful that the best AMD apu? I would check if i were you first. The A10 is probably not more expensive then a8 + gt 630 and might perform better as the gt 630 aint a good card.  Also the a10 from the cpu perspective is more future proof when you'll upgrade the gpu.

 

[edit]

 

 

Honestly i don't see the point of buying an AMD APU to team it with an entry level gpu. The APU (specially on AMD side) already has an entry level gpu inside. If you decide the go the APU only route for now (and add a good gpu later) then consider upgrading the ram if it can be done for cheap. 2000+ ram can help an APU a lot.

 

AMD A10-7850 170$

G.Skill 8GB DDR3 2133 CL10 85$

Gigabyte/msi/asrock MB standard model 50$

storage m500 ssd 75$

case any mid tower case by coolermaster or such 50$

power supply corsair 600W 70$

LG dvd 20$

-----------

520

 

That would be more future proof if you want to upgrade the gpu later. All price on newegg.com

Thanks, as i said i am new at this :D



#7 OP FlailingCamper

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 18:00

 I pointed him to Neowin told him to create an account and have everyone look over his specs.

 

Wecome to Neowin!

 

Love the screen name by the way.

Thanks for showing me this site! Its awesome...



#8 OP FlailingCamper

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 18:10

Oh also i forgot to ask do you think it would be possible to support 3 VGA monitors from this? what would i do? i know this is probably really noob.....



#9 LaP

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 20:43

Oh also i forgot to ask do you think it would be possible to support 3 VGA monitors from this? what would i do? i know this is probably really noob.....

 

Hum i don't think so. Not with a 50$ motherboard anyway i'm almost sure of that.

 

If you want 3 monitors support for desktop then you'll need a discret gpu probably and in this case an amd apu would probably not be the best option. If you want 3 monitors support for gaming then forget it not gonna happen for 500$. It would cost you more than 500$ for the gpus alone to play on 3 monitors.

 

If you are willing to spend a little bit more a good (better) solution would probably be an AMD FX-6300 as the CPU with any R9 270x as the gpu. That would be what i would consider as the minimum spec for a real gaming pc (1080p at mostly high settings in most current games). I would personally advice to spend a little bit more and maybe forget about the ssd. SSDs are nice but i'm not sure i would downgrade the cpu and gpu too much for it.

 

Also most guide will tell you to buy a 400 something W PSU. I would personnaly go for 550W minimum and ideally 600W. The PSU i linked in my previous post is 600W and not too much expensive it is a great deal i think (40$ after rebate card). CPU and RAM progress will be minimal in the next 5 years (like it was in the last 5 years) because of the weakness of console cpus so you'll probably end up upgrading the gpu eventually. I'm running a 5 years old Core i5 750 and overcloked it is still a very potent cpu.

 

gpu : http://www.newegg.co...2-050-_-Product

cpu : http://www.newegg.co...3-286-_-Product

 

In this case DDR3 1600 ram would be enough if you can save some money there. The case i linked in a previous post looks great for the price i would go with it if you buy online.

 

Anyway it's up to you but personally i would not build a gaming computer using an AMD APU or an HTPC gpu like the 630.



#10 Mindovermaster

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 20:47

Hum i don't think so. Not with a 50$ motherboard anyway i'm almost sure of that.

 

If you want 3 monitors support for desktop then you'll need a discret gpu probably and in this case an amd apu would probably not be the best option. If you want 3 monitors support for gaming then forget it not gonna happen for 500$. It would cost you more than 500$ for the gpus alone to play on 3 monitors.

 

If you are willing to spend a little bit more a good (better) solution would probably be an AMD FX-6300 as the CPU with any R9 270x as the gpu. That would be what i would consider as the minimum spec for a real gaming pc (1080p at mostly high settings in most current games). I would personally advice to spend a little bit more and maybe forget about the ssd. SSDs are nice but i'm not sure i would downgrade the cpu and gpu too much for it.

 

Also most guide will tell you to buy a 400 something W PSU. I would personnaly go for 550W minimum and ideally 600W. The PSU i linked in my previous post is 600W and not too much expensive it is a great deal i think (40$ after rebate card). CPU and RAM progress will be minimal in the next 5 years (like it was in the last 5 years) because of the weakness of console cpus so you'll probably end up upgrading the gpu eventually. I'm running a 5 years old Core i5 750 and overcloked it is still a very potent cpu.

 

gpu : http://www.newegg.co...2-050-_-Product

cpu : http://www.newegg.co...3-286-_-Product

 

In this case DDR3 1600 ram would be enough if you can save some money there. The case i linked in a previous post looks great for the price i would go with it if you buy online.

 

Anyway it's up to you but personally i would not build a gaming computer using an AMD APU or an HTPC gpu like the 630.

 

He said he was getting an Asus GeForce GT 630 2GB



#11 LaP

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 21:03

He said he was getting an Asus GeForce GT 630 2GB

 

Hum he listed what he planned to buy and asked if it will work. Will it power on. Sure it will. Will it work for gaming. Imo no anyway not what I consider as gaming. GT 630 is what? A Rebranded 430? He will be lucky if he gets 30fps at 1080p in the less demanding popular games on the market.



#12 OP FlailingCamper

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 21:10

Hum he listed what he planned to buy and asked if it will work. Will it power on. Sure it will. Will it work for gaming. Imo no anyway not what I consider as gaming. GT 630 is what? A Rebranded 430? He will be lucky if he gets 30fps at 1080p in the less demanding popular games on the market.

There is two major things im getting out of this project, a computer and information. This is an educational experience for me and i hope one day if i continue being educated i can be the educator. I VERY much appreciate input from everyone.



#13 OP FlailingCamper

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 21:17

I'm having a little mental debate right now, i really want to make a computer that is good and cheep (i know im dreaming) but i will be going into high school this year and what if when i get out i want to go to collage and need a new computer because mine is outdated? should i just wait for collage? Honestly i don't know if i have the patients for that but if i want a quality computer im going to need more money...



#14 LaP

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 23:12   Best Answer

I don't think you should wait if you don't want to. The first PC i built was a Duron 1GZ with a Radeon 7000. Was crap but i was able to play Half Life 2 with it. It will give you exp about building comp and what to look for.

 

This is the best i can come with if you really want the ssd and a computer than can handle itself for a while with an eventual gpu upgrade. If you don't have enough money you can drop the ssd and use your old hdd for now and upgrade it to an ssd later.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/87srRB

 

[edit] If you need to save more money you can cut on the optimal drive. I did select one reading blue-ray but you could save 10$ by selecting one reading just dvd. You could save money on the motherboard by choosing a micro atx motherboard instead. But the micro atx mbs while less exp have less bells and whistles. But that's an option that would reduce the price by another 20$ and maybe even 30$. You can maybe save another 5$ or 10$ more on the ram by selecting cl9 ram. I would not spend less on the cpu, gpu and psu. People always try to save on PSU but a good psu with more than enough power usually will likely make your pc last longer. I've seen many pc die on crap 400W psu.



#15 +warwagon

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 23:39

Back In on January 1st, 2006 I ordered the parts for what was my attempt to build the cheapest computer possible.  Got the build done for $386.17

 

It had an

 

Micro ATX Cube Case

AMD Sempron 64 2500+

16X DVD+R DVD burner

80GB 7200 RPM hard drive

a Via K8M800 754 socket motherboard

1 stick DDR 512 Megs.