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Talk about security!

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wasn't so brilliant if caught. If you got away with it sure.

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pretty smart. he should have stopped at 41 times lol.

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Another stupid criminal for "Jay Leno's Stupid Criminal list." . . . :shifty:

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Ahhh. Makes me almost miss working retail.... NOT.

 

 

Working at a big name home improvement warehouse, the first thing they always taught us - Never accept a declined card. Ask for another form of payment. The first red flag should have been the $7k price tag. I don't care if you're Bill Gates, no one is going to a brick and mortar store, and buying that much worth of electronics.

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Why not just use Jedi mind tricks?

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Yeah, running up $7K of goods in an Apple store is highly suspect. Even the Mac Pro isn't that much!

 

That does seem like a bad loophole though where the denial codes aren't checked. Guess the onus is on the retailer to refuse it outright if the card is denied.

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Damn, so this guy kept spending 7gs per pop.. Surprising that alone didn't trigger alarm bells.

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"It does not actually matter what code the merchant types into the terminal," the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey stated publicly in February after a similar case there. "Any combination of digits will override the denial."

Who on earth came up with a system this bad? How did they not think to check with the bank whether the code was correct (Since the system is already talking with the bank to perform the transaction it could verify the code)

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Who on earth came up with a system this bad? How did they not think to check with the bank whether the code was correct (Since the system is already talking with the bank to perform the transaction it could verify the code)

There really isn't a solid safety net outside of outright banning overrides from occurring...

 

As if the bank isn't a large national bank... How do you determine that the code is actually from the bank? Take the phone from him? He could have another actor playing the bank on the other side of the line. Call the bank? He could print his own cards with a fake number on the back... Etc...

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The_Decryptor, on 29 Jul 2014 - 11:52, said:

Who on earth came up with a system this bad? How did they not think to check with the bank whether the code was correct (Since the system is already talking with the bank to perform the transaction it could verify the code)

Also sometimes transactions are denied when the link to the bank cannot be established. In that case, same process need to happen. Call the merchant and get the code and put it on the docket and approve the transaction.

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I feel like there's a "Genius" Bar joke waiting to be made in here somewhere...

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Rule number one for retail is never accept a manual override. Over here, if it's not chip-and-pin, walk away and ask for another method of payment.

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how does this work? The merchant is calling the bank for a code not the fraudster, is the merchant in on the scam?

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