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#1 kala-kas

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:56

Hello, new here, been following site without account for ages, now I need your opinion on something. Not sure I got the section right, if anyone thinks its wrong, feel free to move it to the right subforum.

 

Looking how the world goes, especially the smartphone world, no one other than Nokia is making any good feature phones these days.

Well, I'm not the fan of smartphones (although I like some concepts of it, like wi-fi tethering), therefore im a classic feature phone user.

 

My dream phone would be the one that I need to charge once every two months, just for the efficency itself. I'm going to be a computer engineering student this fall, so i thought of one project for myself - build a basic, cheap, good looking, sturdy, long lasting feature phone.

 

I actually started working on my idea already, made a few 3D renders of what I would love to achieve, here they are:

 

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Now what I expect from you, dear Neowin readers and users, give your opinion on my idea, maybe tell what you would change, whats missing, whats good, whats bad. I dont mind critisism, its something to learn from.

 

Thanks in advance :)




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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:00

Good luck with it.

 

But don't be surprised if Microsoft, Samsung, and Apple agents come 'visit' you ... :shifty:



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:01

Well, I think the biggest issue I personally see for a phone with this concept and the people I expect to buy it, is contact management. I appreciate there are people out there who do remember lots of telephone numbers, but I would imagine that the type of person who would buy this would not.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:03

Contact management as well as how do you know if you messed up input of the number without a screen.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:05

I'm with the others, a lack of a screen is huge issue. Even for those who don't like the smartphones need a screen for things like time/date.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:05

Well, its not aimed for everyone, although I have some ideas, who would it be for:

 

a) Older people

b) Backup phone

c) A sturdy secondary phone, eg. for construction workers, dust and waterproof etc.

 

Lack of screen is sure a big bummer, but that is the main point of this as of now. Many businessman carry a some kind of notebook anyway where they have most of their numbers in. And lets face it, in modern world, doing some brain work to remember numbers would do only good :)



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:06

How would you know what numbers you've put in when you're dialling?

 

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:06

Contact management as well as how do you know if you messed up input of the number without a screen.

 

The last pressed number would be the only one left lit up, so you know which one you dialed. When you recieve call you can see numbers, one by one they light up, same if you press call. So there is some way to know.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:08

Well, its not aimed for everyone, although I have some ideas, who would it be for:

 

a) Older people

b) Backup phone

c) A sturdy secondary phone, eg. for construction workers, dust and waterproof etc.

 

Lack of screen is sure a big bummer, but that is the main point of this as of now. Many businessman carry a some kind of notebook anyway where they have most of their numbers in. And lets face it, in modern world, doing some brain work to remember numbers would do only good :)

 

a) Older people are less likely to remember numbers and as someone else pointed out, I suspect are more prone to making dialling errors.

b) Do people really do that? It's news to me
c) again maybe, but I would be sure that would be covered by some sort of local site radio system to reduce costs.

 

What could be a nice fit would be to use a similar style screen technology as an ebook reader. Those tend to have good battery lives so should fit the model.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:25

I must admit i like your 3d renders, i think their really nice, I also liked your idea that the last pressed number would be the only one left lit up.

What about battery life? how would you know when its low?

I guess the phone could start beeping like smoke alarms do.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:26

I must admit i like your 3d renders, i think their really nice, I also liked your idea that the last pressed number would be the only one left lit up.

What about battery life? how would you know when its low?

I guess the phone could start beeping like smoke alarms do.

 

 

Keyboard backlight would turn orange when less than 20% is left and red when less than 10% of battery is left. Thanks for the praise on renders, they are my quite first actually

 

Edit: b) wouldnt it be nice to have some sort of backup, when, for example, you are travelling and lose or someone steals your phone? As far as I'm concerned, backup phones are a real thing



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:27

Those renders look pretty cool actually!! 



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:58

'Looking how the world goes, especially the smartphone world, no one other than Nokia is making any good feature phones these days.'

??? That's biased; I disagree.

 

Sure you can make a phone that has a standby time of a few weeks with a large enough battery/no screen/no background apps, etc. However, making calls will chew through battery life (takes quite a bit of power to transmit to mobile phone towers). My Android phone on standby will last a few days (even a week). But if I make two hours worth of calls, its battery will drain down to about 50% at least.

 

Are you expecting standby time to be two months, or two months including calls?



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 13:02

Standby, of course. Talk times are sure way way less, although thats the department I'd like to be better over a regular feature phone also. Havent really thought into eletronics much yet, been doing some research though on Nokia 105 CPU and such, so cannot give a exact numbers as of now. But you're right, this thing would pack a quite big battery.

 

But truth be told, Nokias feature phone business is also under big question mark since Microsoft bought Nokia. But the thing is, in third world countries, the feature phones make great sales, a really great sales. You can look them up if you want, if I'm not mistaken Nokia 105 sold more than iPhone.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 13:19

Why not make it even smaller and combine the call start/stop buttons into one button, and use the 0 button with a long-press? Just have to hold the 0 key to make or stop a call. This would prevent 'pocket dials' because of the 3 second hold you need along with reduce the size or offer more space for a small screen or larger battery. Its also missing the * and # keys, which could dual act for the answer/disconnect.

As for no screen, not having caller ID this day in age is a bummer, along with searching your addressbook and receiving text messages. For callerID, I'd think there'd be a way to use your backlit buttons to full advantage and somehow have them show the sequence of the incoming number? maybe area code lit one color, region another and the last digits lit another color, the quadrant/side of the lighting displaying what 'place' the digit is... I can't really describe it well and I'm not sure if it would be just visually confusing or a stunning twist on going screenless. You could also have it light each number one after the other with a half second pause or something.. Your other option is a small screen on the back-side for CID/text/address purposes or incorporating simple bluetooth connectivity to something like a smart watch/truck infotainment/computer/tablet/smart caller band.