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#61 shozilla

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 20:29

Yup, specs, OS, hardware, etc.

 

It does look plenty promising for what it is. However, giving some thought into it... I myself, need whatsapp at the very least some sort of messaging (as I'm a hard messager with people cross countries)  and given how the majority of people are into some sort of social networking... I can see this phone though, going up in some sort of work type atmosphere. 

 

you will need a smartphone for whatsapp...

 

The OP is working on the cellphone... not smartphone.




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Posted 06 August 2014 - 20:31

you will need a smartphone for whatsapp...

 

The OP is working on the cellphone... not smartphone.

yup I agree, alls I was pointing out is the demand for normal cellphone keeps going down and down.



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:29

No, after considering alot, I wiill not give up my original idea - the first project, and I call it the first one, will be screenless. Reasons? Simpler to design (schematics wise and all other ways one could think of), cost effective and thats it. Im not super genius to figure all out at the first time round now, am i? Lets face it, designing a board to do all the cellular stuff is going to be a harsh and tons of work for my first project anyway, especially since im quite new to it, and just starting to learn it. Easier to program etc. I will say this though: if I will be successful with this one, I will do another similar project.

 

Therefore, I bring to you a new, final model I have in mind:untitled30.png

 

Middle frame is metal, its just in the middle (kind of like apples iphone 4), but the deal here is, its magnetic, strong magnets hold it still, therefore no screws or sim slots is present to user, one simply removes it to access screws for disassemble or insert sim, change battery maybe also.
Front is polycarbonate, but it has this soft kind of coating on it, giving it sort of rubbery feel, you know, like the Thinkpads used to have.

Buttons themselves contain of two materials, glass and same soft plastic.

It has motor to put it in vibrating mode (holding down 9 key, you know its on when it vibrates, off when it makes a tiny beep). Some keys also double as +/#/* keys, not all is figured out yet.

Oh and it has wireless charging build in, just to remove any ports (since it will be designed to be water and dustproof)

 

And thats all there is as of now, new ideas/implementations still welcome

 



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:40

There should be pound (#) and asterisk (*) symbols on the phone too. Almost every voicemail and automated answering service requires you to use these two buttons. Also letters on the number keys would be a must as well.



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:40

well good luck I guess



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:43

There should be pound (#) and asterisk (*) symbols on the phone too. Almost every voicemail and automated answering service requires you to use these two buttons. Also letters on the number keys would be a must as well.

 

Since I'm building it for myself, and I do not live in US, the phone numbers 1-800-TEXT does not mean anything to me, therefore the letters are unneccessary.
As for # and *, the thing is, voicemails and such only listen to the tone it returns (ref: http://en.wikipedia....elephone_keypad ) therefore if I can get the same action out of some other key some sort of action, it should still work fine. I dont use the voicemail either actually, so that would not be huge problem for me, but yeah, the seperate keys are actually not neccessary



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:50

Since I'm building it for myself, and I do not live in US, the phone numbers 1-800-TEXT does not mean anything to me, therefore the letters are unneccessary.
As for # and *, the thing is, voicemails and such only listen to the tone it returns (ref: http://en.wikipedia....elephone_keypad ) therefore if I can get the same action out of some other key some sort of action, it should still work fine. I dont use the voicemail either actually, so that would not be huge problem for me, but yeah, the seperate keys are actually not neccessary

 

Well, if you are building it for yourself, then why post stuff here?

 

You aren't thinking right.. because someone else will steal your idea and start the mass production that looks like your phone.   You get mad because you will say "Hey! That is my idea... dammit!"  Too bad.

 

If you want to show off, then just wait until you got the final stage of the phone and show us your photos of your new phone.



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:53

Thought I'd get some good ideas to improve it, before starting the build process. And guess what, I did get quite a few.

 

As for someone stealing, I dont think this idea is as huge to be worth stealing anyway, and I cannot see any company being innovative or big enough to actually build it with the standards and quality I have in mind. Especially not startups, some creaking plasticky things just do not work out for me. I spend as many resources as I can to achieve this, no matter what.

 

Oh.. and I will post a build log and such, dont really care if anyone steals it, builds it themselves, or whatever, im just being kind here ;)



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:56

Thought I'd get some good ideas to improve it, before starting the build process. And guess what, I did get quite a few.

 

As for someone stealing, I dont think this idea is as huge to be worth stealing anyway, and I cannot see any company being innovative or big enough to actually build it with the standards and quality I have in mind. Especially not startups, some creaking plasticky things just do not work out for me. I spend as many resources as I can to achieve this, no matter what.

 

Oh.. and I will post a build log and such, dont really care if anyone steals it, builds it themselves, or whatever, im just being kind here ;)

 

No you didn't get the ideas from us because you changed mind and used the final render that shows us that you won't use the screen and keypad placement that I suggested earlier.

 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 18:59

But I did get others, for example, doubling keys as dual function and Bigkaye post in first page brought new ideas to table, smartwatch integration thingy seems interesting too, although I'm not sure it'll make it. One would sure need watch when you cant even get that from a phone, but I might somehow add that functionality too (eg hold 5, show sequence of current time, whatever)



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 19:01

But I did get others, for example, doubling keys as dual function and Bigkaye post in first page brought new ideas to table, smartwatch integration thingy seems interesting too, although I'm not sure it'll make it. One would sure need watch when you cant even get that from a phone, but I might somehow add that functionality too (eg hold 5, show sequence of current time, whatever)

 

OK but what if people do not want a watch?  I don't want a watch.

 

People rather have the screen on the phone. They don't want a watch or link it to the phone.



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 19:14

I'm sure there are lots of things that you use of your phone besides calling and watch today, therefore I'd say - you're not the target market. At the moment, noone is, but me. And I did give a simple example how clock could be easily implemented, only matter of programming it in.