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#31 Anibal P

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 01:37

"American freedoms" ... In this day and age, can you really say that with a straight face?


Compared to what he says, we still have "too much freedom", so it's more of a in comparison type of thing


#32 madd-hatter

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 01:42

Ohio is an open carry state, meaning even if it were real it shouldn't have been an issue.

 

reported ... that the man was pointing the gun at people, including small children.

 

1+1=?



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 02:14

It wasn't on it, according to the video that was shown of the weapon.

What? How? Replica guns should have an orange tip on it, in the USA.

 

 

Regardless, considering it's a police involved shooting, I believe the officer(s) are now placed on leave pending an investigation, no?



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 02:17

The police officer(s) responsible should lose their jobs and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It is absolutely unacceptable the way that US police officers abuse their power and gun down suspects without a second thought.

 

Even if it had been a real gun he should have been brought in alive.

also charged.



#35 DocM

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 02:23

For what? Playing with a toy?

#36 Wyn6

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 04:16

For what? Playing with a toy?

I think he was referring to the first paragraph about the cops involved being fired.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 04:32

The glorification and defending of cops in this country is ridiculous. They are licensed thugs and criminals and can and do get away with murder every single time. Every single year officer related shootings (every one of them lethal) keep going up, and in most cases the officers are never even accused let alone convicted.

 

People forget that cops are PUBLIC SERVANTS. Why don't the same laws apply to them? A cop (and anyone part of DA's office) can legally break any law and claim ignorance. They can break into people's homes, arrest, beat them up, confiscate property, all of it based on wrong info, and there are zero consequences.

 

You people need to read about the militarization of local police forces and the steady increase and abuse in power with no corresponding increase in crime over thelast few decades.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 09:51

The glorification and defending of cops in this country is ridiculous. They are licensed thugs and criminals and can and do get away with murder every single time. Every single year officer related shootings (every one of them lethal) keep going up, and in most cases the officers are never even accused let alone convicted.

 

People forget that cops are PUBLIC SERVANTS. Why don't the same laws apply to them? A cop (and anyone part of DA's office) can legally break any law and claim ignorance. They can break into people's homes, arrest, beat them up, confiscate property, all of it based on wrong info, and there are zero consequences.

 

You people need to read about the militarization of local police forces and the steady increase and abuse in power with no corresponding increase in crime over thelast few decades.

The problem is that those bad and abusive police officers—and there are a lot of them—ruin it for the decent ones. I appreciate that police in America are under incredible pressure, as unlike the UK they could be shot dead at any incident, but it still doesn't excuse the trigger happy culture that we are seeing.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:22

The problem is that those bad and abusive police officers—and there are a lot of them—ruin it for the decent ones. I appreciate that police in America are under incredible pressure, as unlike the UK they could be shot dead at any incident, but it still doesn't excuse the trigger happy culture that we are seeing.

I agree with this. Another problem is US police have too much power. Most police in other countries can't just arrest anyone they please on the spot, or open fire on them, every officer isn't even issued a firearm.

 

Police do a necessary and dangerous job, but because they have power, they need to be held to a much higher standard. Their job isn't an excuse to abuse their power.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:19

it would have been easier for everyone if he just put it down.... guessing, don't know for sure, but strong feeling.

 

He was just shopping. He was probably confuse by the event. When you are confused you tend to be slower than usual.



#41 Gerowen

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:10

it would have been easier for everyone if he just put it down.... guessing, don't know for sure, but strong feeling.

Way to blame the victim there.  It's not like it was a harmless air gun or anything.



#42 DocM

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:34

Occams Razor. Basically, the simplest answer is most often correct.

Guy is handling something that looks like a gun in a toy department that sells toy guns, making gun noises, probably saying "bang" etc.

The odds are extremely good that it's a toy. Think hard before opening fire, which also puts bystanders at risk (especially cops, who shoot bystanders at a 5x higher rate than armed civilians do.)

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 06:08

I must be psychic  I knew the color of the deceased's skin just from reading the topic title.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 06:26

Way to blame the victim there.  It's not like it was a harmless air gun or anything.

 

didn't.