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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:28

Xbox boss Phil Spencer has confirmed to Eurogamer that Microsoft's controversial exclusivity deal for Rise of the Tomb Raider "has a duration".

However, he declined to confirm how long that duration is set for.

Last night, during its Gamescom press conference, Microsoft and Square Enix made the surprise announcement that Rise of the Tomb Raider would launch holiday 2015 exclusively on Xbox. That, Spencer confirmed, means Xbox One and Xbox 360.


Source: http://www.eurogamer...ign=socialoomph




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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:31

Let's hope it's between 3 and 6 months and not 1 year.



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:36

Why didn't they say this all along and not cause an absolute ruckus which has been proven to be false?



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:41

Declining to announce the duration and not mentioning timed in the show leads me to think its months rather than years.

Shady tactics by MS.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:46

Why didn't they say this all along and not cause an absolute ruckus which has been proven to be false?

 

I thought they're original statement was clear enough.



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:53

I thought they're original statement was clear enough.

 

They should just have said "coming first to..." like Sony did to have avoided this PR headache.

 

Whole conversation

 

Here's our conversation:
 
"When people want me to say, can you tell us when or if it's coming to other platforms, it's not my job," Spencer told Eurogamer. "My job is not to talk about games I don't own. I have a certain relationship on this version of Tomb Raider, which we announced, and I feel really good about our long term relationship with Crystal and Square.
 
"I get the reaction I see. If I'm a PlayStation person all of a sudden I feel like, the franchise has gone. I didn't buy the IP. I didn't buy the studio. It's not mine. Where this thing will go over time, just like Dead Rising or Ryse, we'll see what happens with the game. I don't own every iteration of Tomb Raider.
 
"I don't own them building Tomb Raider on other platforms. I can't talk about the franchise that way. I can talk about the deal I have."
 
So, what, exactly, is that deal?
 
"I have Tomb Raider shipping next holiday exclusively on Xbox. It is Xbox 360 and Xbox One. I'm not trying to fake anybody out in terms of where this thing is. What they do with the franchise in the long run is not mine. I don't control it. So all I can talk about is the deal I have. I don't know where else Tomb Raider goes.
 
Is there a time limit on the exclusivity period?
 
"Yes, the deal has a duration. I didn't buy it. I don't own the franchise."
 
Can you tell us how long the duration is?
 
"No. It's not because I'm trying to be a headfake on anybody. It's a deal between us and the partner. People ask me how much did we pay. There are certain things I'm just not going to talk about because it's a business deal between us and then. Obviously the deal does have a duration. I didn't buy the IP in perpetuity."
 
Angry gamers have directed many of their comments towards Square Enix, accusing the publisher of selling out and alienating their PlayStation and PC owning customers.
 
"Our friends at Microsoft have always seen huge potential in Tomb Raider and have believed in our vision since our first unveil with them on their stage at E3 2011," wrote Darrell Gallagher on the Tomb Raider tumblr. "We know they will get behind this game more than any support we have had from them in the past - we believe this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming, with the help, belief and backing of a major partner like Microsoft."

 

 

Source: http://www.eurogamer...-has-a-duration



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:54

why are ps fans greedy. you have uncharted, which is a game id rather play than tomb raider



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:56

Declining to announce the duration and not mentioning timed in the show leads me to think its months rather than years.

Shady tactics by MS.



Shady how exactly? MS and Sony will regularly announce games as launching first on their console with several different ways of saying it. Who announces the duration of a timed exclusive?

I guess the problem is that MS didn't use the world timed, instead they said exclusive in 2015, which definitely indicates timed, but is not direct about it. Again, what is so unusual about this compared to how timed exclusive deals are announced across all platforms?

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 14:58

Shady how exactly? MS and Sony will regularly announce games as launching first on their console with several different ways of saying it. Who announces the duration of a timed exclusive?

I guess the problem is that MS didn't use the world timed, instead they said exclusive in 2015, which definitely indicates timed, but is not direct about it. Again, what is so unusual about this compared to how timed exclusive deals are announced across all platforms?

 

The way they go about addressing questions after, instead of just saying yeah it's timed and clearing everything up each person in MS decides to do their own thing. Here's Aaron

 

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:03

They should just have said "coming first to..." like Sony did to have avoided this PR headache.



I really don't get why MS is getting creamed for this. As if this is some new tactic or something. They said exclusive in 2015. People are angry over the wording, that is it. Plus, they are getting mad about MS not saying the duration, but then what is the point of a timed exclusive. Sony hasn't mentioned what the duration of all of their 'first on...' games.

I swear people are so easily upset sometimes.




The way they go about addressing questions after, instead of just saying yeah it's timed and clearing everything up each person in MS decides to do their own thing. Here's Aaron
 
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What was wrong with that post? He literally referred him to CD's comment. Sounds like Aaron was not the one that could directly comment beyond the official line. Phil, of course, is another matter seeing as he runs the division.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:04

Why is MS getting all of the fallout fullstop? Surely Square Enix are just as to blame by the intentional wolly statements?

 

IMO, I hate platform exclusives... get rid of them all and let platforms go truly toe to toe on spec and features :)



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:05

Fun watching PS4 fans get their panties in a bunch over something that's not an issue.



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:07

It's funny, PS4 fans are mad at that but you didn't hear Xbox fans mad that the new Tomb Raider wasn't on Xbox One but it was on PS4, and that was a full exclusive afaik. Oh how funny it is, right?



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:07

Why is MS getting all of the fallout fullstop? Surely Square Enix are just as to blame by the intentional wolly statements?

 

IMO, I hate platform exclusives... get rid of them all and let platforms go truly toe to toe on spec and features :)

 

Yeah they are, from the blog post to their own marketing team

 

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:08

I really don't get why MS is getting creamed for this. As if this is some new tactic or something. They said exclusive in 2015. People are angry over the wording, that is it. Plus, they are getting mad about MS not saying the duration, but then what is the point of a timed exclusive. Sony hasn't mentioned what the duration of all of their 'first on...' games.

I swear people are so easily upset sometimes.

 

 

Reeks of double standards doesnt it!