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#1 soniqstylz

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 15:04

This was mentioned in the PS4 reveal Feb 2013.  Being able to play your friend's games on your own console online.  It acts like a P2P Playstation Now.  You basically take over your friend's console from your own.

 

http://kotaku.com/ne...s-wi-1620239976

 

http://kotaku.com/ho...work-1621424897

 

This is different than Far Cry 4, where you can jump in and co-op online even if you don't own the game.




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Posted 15 August 2014 - 15:08

But when is this 2.0 firmware coming out?



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 17:34

But when is this 2.0 firmware coming out?

 

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 17:37

But when is this 2.0 firmware coming out?

All they've said is "Fall".  I guess that's better than Second Half or Winter though.



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 18:14

I wish there was more to the 3.0 update, but I do like the SharePlay feature, so that will be a nice addition.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 00:46

Ok, so a bit more clarity has been released regarding the details of the feature:

http://www.gamespot....6/1100-6421730/


That article is a couple days old, but it hadn't been mentioned yet, so I thought I would share it.


So basically, you can allow a friend to play an entire game that you own, but you have re authorize that game every hour and of course you cannot use the ps4 for anything else while this is happening. I would say that one hour 'check-in' is a good way to try and limit too much abuse of the system, a sort of drm-lite. Its too bad you can't do anything else with the ps4 during this though, but again, I see that as a way to limit abuse.

The whole point of the program is a glorified demo system. Sony won't force developers to provide demos, so instead they created a system mechanism that allows anyone that owns a game to demo it out to anyone else.

One thing that is not clear is how saves work. On the original Kotaku story listed in this thread, there was an update to the article that stated that since the remote user is basically taking over your local ps4, any game saves are tied to your account, not to that remote user. Then, the more recent article above states that saves are in fact tied to the remote users account. I wonder which it is.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:54

I'm okay with that, it is suppose to be shareplay, not turn your PS4 on and go away on holiday for the weekend whilst your friends play your games.

For that there's still the two account activations if you only have one PS4 and are happy with a friend having their PS4 registered with your second account token.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 11:17

I guess this can work out. 1hr check-ins negates the thought of abuse.

But what in really wondering about is the smoothness of gameplay. Because this is only going to be as good as your internet connection.

I wouldn't want to play a game like Rayman Legends, or an FPS, with a 3 down and 1.5up connection (and up being the more important speed here in this situation). Wouldn't be a smooth experience IMHO...

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 14:00

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 14:10

Dedicated.. wait for it....

 

YouTube App!

 

Coming out with 2.0 also..

 

Wow, finally..

 

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Playstation Share, looks pretty good. Anyone want to level up my warframe for me when this comes out?



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 23:49


So basically, you can allow a friend to play an entire game that you own, but you have re authorize that game every hour and of course you cannot use the ps4 for anything else while this is happening. I would say that one hour 'check-in' is a good way to try and limit too much abuse of the system, a sort of drm-lite. Its too bad you can't do anything else with the ps4 during this though, but again, I see that as a way to limit abuse.

 

I see it as a way to keep your CPU from blowing up.  The game is still being rendered on your console while your friend is playing it.

 

Hakoom is going to make a mint getting people trophies over SharePlay.



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 00:10

I see it as a way to keep your CPU from blowing up.  The game is still being rendered on your console while your friend is playing it.
 
Hakoom is going to make a mint getting people trophies over SharePlay.



Sure it is, but the console is built with some multitasking in mind. It sounds like you can't even say jump into another app and use it will the streaming is taking place. I could understand if the act of streaming puts more stress on the console then it can handle while still allowing multitasking, but that hasn't been revealed yet.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 21:31

I'm okay with that, it is suppose to be shareplay, not turn your PS4 on and go away on holiday for the weekend whilst your friends play your games.

I really don't get the point of the one hour limit. As I understand it there is no Sony servers involved here so Sony doesn't need to limit resource use. If you want to load up The Last of Us or something then pass control of your PS4 to your remote friend for the weekend what does Sony care? That means you can't use your PS4, you're sucking down your bandwidth streaming the game video to your friend (which is probably 720p instead of 1080p), and your friend is stuck playing just that one game of yours with saves that are on your profile. That seems like enough to limit abuse already without having to cap it at an hour. If your friend wants to actually have the trophies on their profile, play whenever they want, etc. they still need to buy the game. I'm not saying I think the feature is bad, it's still pretty cool and I don't think the competition even offers that much but the hour limit just seems arbitrary and unnecessary to me.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 00:22

Sure it is, but the console is built with some multitasking in mind. It sounds like you can't even say jump into another app and use it will the streaming is taking place. I could understand if the act of streaming puts more stress on the console then it can handle while still allowing multitasking, but that hasn't been revealed yet.

 

The console's firmware isn't built for that, like X1.  Yeah, it'll record or download in background, etc., but you can't watch Netflix while playing a game while browsing etc.  It's not the act of streaming, it's the act of rendering the game.



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 01:35

The console's firmware isn't built for that, like X1.  Yeah, it'll record or download in background, etc., but you can't watch Netflix while playing a game while browsing etc.  It's not the act of streaming, it's the act of rendering the game.



That's true. You can't watch netflix while a game is running normally anyway, so that makes sense.

So its a limited demo replacement. I hope this doesn't lead to fewer developers making the effort to create a standard demo.