DocM Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 W-T-F....awww Hell, just start the effin' woodchipper :angry: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-amish-kidnapping-arrests-20140816-story.html Kidnapped Amish girls in N.Y. were sexually assaulted, D.A. says Two Amish girls who were kidnapped this week were sexually assaulted during the 24 hours they were held captive, law enforcement officials told the Los Angeles Times on Saturday. St. Lawrence County Dist. Atty. Mary Rain said the victims, a 12-year-old girl and her 6-year-old sister, suffered the assaults after they were abducted near their family's home in Heuvelton, N.Y., on Wednesday. Stephen Howell II, 39, and Nicole Vaisey, 25, are charged with kidnapping the girls. Rain said Howell and Vaisey had been charged with first-degree kidnapping rather than sexual assault because in New York the first-degree charge applies if kidnapping victims suffer an injury or sexual assault. The Los Angeles Times and many other news organizations previously published the girls' names, which were revealed when they first went missing, but The Times is now withholding their identities because of the sexual assault allegations. Rain declined to say whether one or both suspects were believed to have been involved in the assault. Howell and Vaisey were a couple, according to Rain. The two girls walked out to their family?s roadside vegetable stand on Wednesday night after they mistook Howell and Vaisey for customers. The couple snatched the girls and dropped them off late Thursday night in Richville, N.Y., where they approached a stranger's home, who recognized their Amish garb from news reports and called police. The 12-year-old was able to point police to the couple's home in nearby Hermon, and Howell and Vaisey agreed to be interviewed on Friday night. They were arrested and charged with first-degree kidnapping a short time later, according to Det. Sgt. Brooks Bigwarfe of the St. Lawrence County Sheriff's Office. On Saturday, Bigwarfe told The Times that police were reviewing evidence that the pair may have been involved in previous kidnappings. "We're looking into other information that there may have possibly been attempts," Bigwarfe said. Howell works as a nurse (!!!) at an area health clinic, and Vaisey is a dog groomer, Bigwarfe said. The couple had no prior arrests and have no children, he said, adding that the girls were not targeted because they were Amish. The girls' disappearance Friday touched off a massive search that involved nearly a dozen law enforcement agencies and hundreds of rescue personnel. The search was complicated by the fact that the Amish shun modern technology, so the New York State Police could not release photographs of the girls when they issued an Amber Alert. In a statement issued Saturday, the St. Lawrence County Sheriff's Office said it feared that Howell and Vaisey might have planned to strike again. "The arrest of the two persons have with no doubt saved young children from future abuse at the hands of these two," the statement read. Howell and Vaisey face up to 25 years in prison if convicted of the first-degree kidnapping charge, according to Rain. They are being held without bail. Perps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 ugh, that some manly woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/08/amish_girls_alleged_kidnapper_studied_rape_myth_acceptance_physiological_arousal.html Amish girls' accused kidnapper studied rape psychology CANTON, N.Y. -- The St. Lawrence County woman accused of helping her boyfriend kidnap two Amish girls studied the psychology of rape as a college student. Nicole Vaisey was a senior psychology major at Mercyhurst College in Erie, Pa. in 2011 when she published research about the effects of watching pornography on attitudes toward rape. Vaisey's hypothesis was that participants who saw sexually suggestive images would blame the victims more than those who had not. Vaisey, 25, and Stephen M. Howells II, 39, of 1380 county Route 21 in Hermon, are both charged with two counts of first-degree kidnapping. Not guilty pleas have been entered on their behalf. More charges may be filed, according to the prosecutor. > > A lawyer for Vaisey, Bradford C. Riendeau, told The New York Times that he planned to argue in court that Vaisey was in an abusive and submissive relationship with Howells, and that Vaisey was not the lead person in the kidnapping. "She appears to have been the slave and he was the master," Riendeau told The Times. Rain has said Vaisey and Howells acted together, and did not characterize Vaisey as an unwilling participant. "We are confident that she was equally involved in the allegations as he was," Rain has said. Neither the prosecutor nor defense lawyer could be reached for comment Sunday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madd-hatter Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 "Kidnapped ... girls ... were sexually assaulted." "... Amish ... in N.Y." One of these phrases surprised me more than the other. What a strange world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Curious to what they mean: "Stephen Howell II, 39, and Nicole Vaisey, 25, are charged with kidnapping the girls. Rain said Howell and Vaisey had been charged with first-degree kidnapping rather than sexual assault because in New York the first-degree charge applies if kidnapping victims suffer an injury or sexual assault." So.... was there sexual assault? according to this, no. Or just written poorly? (or even i am reading it wrong) If there was sexual assault, burn them... if kidnapping, burn lightly and jail them indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COKid Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 W-T-F....awww Hell, just start the effin' woodchipper :angry: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-amish-kidnapping-arrests-20140816-story.html Perps Yeah, who needs a trial? Because they were arrested and charged, they MUST be guilty, right Doc? You really think many people trust the police in this country, dude? The 'perps' should be grateful they each weren't shot 6 times like Michael Brown. So maybe wait until AFTER a conviction before you satisfy your thirst for vengeance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 "Kidnapped ... girls ... were sexually assaulted." "... Amish ... in N.Y." One of these phrases surprised me more than the other. What a strange world we live in. I think it's just poorly written, and FYI there are a lot of Amish in New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Ohio and Indiana. Gerowen 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Yeah, who needs a trial? Because they were arrested and charged, they MUST be guilty, right Doc? You really think many people trust the police in this country these days, dude? The 'perps' should be grateful they each weren't shot 6 times like Michael Brown. I can't speak for him, but I would be willing to bet he implied the woodchipper AFTER being proved guilty in a court of law. I am betting, while being arrested, if either had gone for the officers gun, they too would have been shot just like Micheal Brown. Gerowen and Shiranui 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Given that her lawyer is now trying to get a plea deal based on turning States evidence, the odds of guilt here look pretty high. I have NO sympathy for child abusers/molesters. Seen too many victims. Way too many. Close up. Torolol 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Head first, or feet first, Doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Feet, of course! :ninja: Shiranui 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think it's just poorly written, and FYI there are a lot of Amish in New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Ohio and Indiana.Thought Lancaster, Pennsylvania have the largest community of Amish... But found out that is Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Lancaster is where most of my Amish & Mennonite relatives live. Amish are among the fastest growing groups in the US, though still rather small. Not for long, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriz Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Pretty sad news, shame this ###### happends on a daily basis.. On a lighter note, time to introduce Amish Jiu Jitsu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Poster Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/08/amish_girls_alleged_kidnapper_studied_rape_myth_acceptance_physiological_arousal.html Doc you highlighted the slave and master bit, why does that mean anything? thats just a preference...i am confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardslap Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 well at least they found the 2 girls alive most of the storys have a worse ending to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted August 18, 2014 MVC Share Posted August 18, 2014 Gotta admit though, the dude grows a nice looking beard. I'm more suspect about the guy behind them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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