+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted August 20, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted August 20, 2014 Would be nice to see some screenshots http://www.linuxscreenshots.org/?release=elementary%20OS%200.3%20Beta%201 Aergan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 How much time it took windows to get virtual desktops?, not there yet but coming sooner or laterMany years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruti Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Many years ago. https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-threshold-here-come-the-virtual-desktops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 you guys should try libreoffice or WPS office!! Microsoft Office 2010 actually works quite nice in Wine nowadays. I'm just too used to the ribbon to revert to classic-style things with dialogs everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-threshold-here-come-the-virtual-desktopsYes, I've seen that, I mean it's been available for many, many of years, just not out of the box. (And before anyone decides to cry "third party", lets not forget your whole desktop is also third party.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruti Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yes, I've seen that, I mean it's been available for many, many of years, just not out of the box. (And before anyone decides to cry "third party", lets not forget your whole desktop is also third party.) ive tried many alternatives for example http://www.betterdesktoptool.com/, but somehow its laggy for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I'm always amazed how much the Linux community is able to accomplish in their free time without getting paid for most of it. simonlang and Ruti 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 I'm always amazed how much the Linux community is able to accomplish in their free time without getting paid for most of it.Most of these developers have their own jobs and dedicate some free time to develop for the community. Ruti 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Most of these developers have their own jobs and dedicate some free time to develop for the community. Yes, and that makes it even more amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Going to have to give this a whirl then, since everyone here seems to like it so much! DConnell and Ruti 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Is this stable enough for a tech-challenged person? I have to "help" a relative with his infected laptop. Ruti 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The nice thing I found about Elementary is that once you get the keyboard shortcuts in your fingers and configure hot corners the way you like them, the window management is amazing. but this is nothing special for elementary at all. kde based distros offer even more since long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 but this is nothing special for elementary at all. kde based distros offer even more since long long time. I guess sensible defaults is what Elementary wins on. They have actual designers and UX guys working on it. KDE, by default, looks quite bad. It's the usual Linux issue, where you have great coders but no designers or interaction specialists. In Elementary you can just install it and get going. It'll look great and work great, without you having to configure a ton of stuff manually. That value is very important to a lot of people, the people who don't want to or can't spend a lot of time configuring things themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayW Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Would be nice to see some screenshots Link to Slideshow: http://s753.photobucket.com/user/GrayW85/slideshow/ Thumbnails below. Nothing out of the ordinary, let me know if you'd like anything in particular :) First row is installer, second row from within Freya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I guess sensible defaults is what Elementary wins on. They have actual designers and UX guys working on it. KDE, by default, looks quite bad. It's the usual Linux issue, where you have great coders but no designers or interaction specialists. In Elementary you can just install it and get going. It'll look great and work great, without you having to configure a ton of stuff manually. That value is very important to a lot of people, the people who don't want to or can't spend a lot of time configuring things themselves. i disagree here. kde can be made looking quite good with the right iconset, as i have shown in my distro. elementary does nothing besides good looking. lacking features. that's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruti Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I guess sensible defaults is what Elementary wins on. They have actual designers and UX guys working on it. KDE, by default, looks quite bad. It's the usual Linux issue, where you have great coders but no designers or interaction specialists. In Elementary you can just install it and get going. It'll look great and work great, without you having to configure a ton of stuff manually. That value is very important to a lot of people, the people who don't want to or can't spend a lot of time configuring things themselves. I agree, imagine someone meeting linux for the first time. Their first impression can be "-damn that looks ugly and complicated" -you can customize it! "-well that sounds complicated too" or "damn that looks userfriendly and sexy" "-hell yeah!", i believe that was the only thing limiting linux as a mainstream os, ubuntu was cool once, but they ######ed it up. EOS looks a lot like osx really, but thats not a bad thing. Eos is what linux needed to attract new users. Period. Noone wants an ugly baby, to fix him later. everyone want it to be cute out of the box... or the ######. Mindovermaster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitmz Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 But hang on, you can have all that on eOS as well, ofc. Not installed by default but possible. But again, you dont have anything of that in windows too so while I agree with you at some points, is not necessarily a major downside of eOS (or any other distro that lack those fetaures), each one has something to offer, each WM/DE too. Dolphin >>>> Files (eOS) But... Dolphin is on the market for YEARS now, the team behind it is huge, remember that! KDE is more resource hungry so a laptop/ultrabook user might want to use something like eOS, Openbox, MATE, etc to keep it speedy I do hope they implement stuff in Files (eOS) because its just barebones with looks now, but they will get there, they are not Thunar-like minimalistc hehe Linux is great because of that, the integration, possibilities, pretty much endless :) Ruti 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted August 21, 2014 Veteran Share Posted August 21, 2014 Keep it on topic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Here's my 2 cents on this: To anyone who says "this build doesn't have this kernel, or this browser, or whatever", I say ######. These guys behind eOS are the first, I think, that understood the main Linux problem: user friendliness. It's the most polished distro I've ever used, and I used a LOT of them so far. It's just right for the common user that just wants to listen to some music, browse some websites, read mail and so on. Basic things I mean. That's why it's called "elementary". Obviously, for a power user, this distro seems too locked down out of the box, and I agree. But I think this is what a OS should be like out of the box. Because the majority of PC users are not power users, they don't know ###### about terminal, apt-get and stuff like this. eOS is something that even my grandmother could use, and this is GOOD. Who needs bells and whistles, like KDE that is a huge memory hog, or fancy GUI effects, like Compiz & stuff? Nobody seems to focus on the 1st user experience, the one after the installation. eOS is beautiful and it just WORKS. You want to mess with it further? No problem, but don't blame the team behind it because some app you like doesn't fit the overall design of the OS. I really agree and support the mentality behind eOS, and yes, I too think that this is the best Linux distro so far. macoman, Mindovermaster, GrayW and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Here's my 2 cents on this: To anyone who says "this build doesn't have this kernel, or this browser, or whatever", I say ######. These guys behind eOS are the first, I think, that understood the main Linux problem: user friendliness. It's the most polished distro I've ever used, and I used a LOT of them so far. It's just right for the common user that just wants to listen to some music, browse some websites, read mail and so on. Basic things I mean. That's why it's called "elementary". Obviously, for a power user, this distro seems too locked down out of the box, and I agree. But I think this is what a OS should be like out of the box. Because the majority of PC users are not power users, they don't know ###### about terminal, apt-get and stuff like this. eOS is something that even my grandmother could use, and this is GOOD. Who needs bells and whistles, like KDE that is a huge memory hog, or fancy GUI effects, like Compiz & stuff? Nobody seems to focus on the 1st user experience, the one after the installation. eOS is beautiful and it just WORKS. You want to mess with it further? No problem, but don't blame the team behind it because some app you like doesn't fit the overall design of the OS. I really agree and support the mentality behind eOS, and yes, I too think that this is the best Linux distro so far.You understand very well what elementary OS is all about it... The main key is the user-friendly, beautiful interface and can be used even by my mom. Ruti and Mindovermaster 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruti Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Here's my 2 cents on this: To anyone who says "this build doesn't have this kernel, or this browser, or whatever", I say ######. These guys behind eOS are the first, I think, that understood the main Linux problem: user friendliness. It's the most polished distro I've ever used, and I used a LOT of them so far. It's just right for the common user that just wants to listen to some music, browse some websites, read mail and so on. Basic things I mean. That's why it's called "elementary". Obviously, for a power user, this distro seems too locked down out of the box, and I agree. But I think this is what a OS should be like out of the box. Because the majority of PC users are not power users, they don't know ###### about terminal, apt-get and stuff like this. eOS is something that even my grandmother could use, and this is GOOD. Who needs bells and whistles, like KDE that is a huge memory hog, or fancy GUI effects, like Compiz & stuff? Nobody seems to focus on the 1st user experience, the one after the installation. eOS is beautiful and it just WORKS. You want to mess with it further? No problem, but don't blame the team behind it because some app you like doesn't fit the overall design of the OS. I really agree and support the mentality behind eOS, and yes, I too think that this is the best Linux distro so far. You understand very well what elementary OS is all about it... The main key is the user-friendly, beautiful interface and can be used even by my mom. i think we got a bunch of cents in here since i agree completely with you both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daorbed9 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 i disagree here. kde can be made looking quite good with the right iconset, as i have shown in my distro. elementary does nothing besides good looking. lacking features. that's a fact. I don't think kde looks good. I've tried so many times but I just don't like the kde design. It takes more than icons to fix it. I do like the elementary ui but i think they need to define it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayW Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Here's my 2 cents on this: To anyone who says "this build doesn't have this kernel, or this browser, or whatever", I say ######. These guys behind eOS are the first, I think, that understood the main Linux problem: user friendliness. It's the most polished distro I've ever used, and I used a LOT of them so far. It's just right for the common user that just wants to listen to some music, browse some websites, read mail and so on. Basic things I mean. That's why it's called "elementary". Obviously, for a power user, this distro seems too locked down out of the box, and I agree. But I think this is what a OS should be like out of the box. Because the majority of PC users are not power users, they don't know ###### about terminal, apt-get and stuff like this. eOS is something that even my grandmother could use, and this is GOOD. Who needs bells and whistles, like KDE that is a huge memory hog, or fancy GUI effects, like Compiz & stuff? Nobody seems to focus on the 1st user experience, the one after the installation. eOS is beautiful and it just WORKS. You want to mess with it further? No problem, but don't blame the team behind it because some app you like doesn't fit the overall design of the OS. I really agree and support the mentality behind eOS, and yes, I too think that this is the best Linux distro so far. Very well said. This is exactly what it's all about and I think it does a fantastic job too. Being based on Ubuntu, the install is so straightforward just about anyone could make their way through the 7/8 "Next" clicks. Once the install is complete it's entirely possible to use straight away without any fiddling around which is exactly why most people are still stuck on Windows - for the average user, it's ready to use. Users are fickle beasts. They want something simple that looks pretty and just works and works quickly. elementaryOS lives up to that need without costing a ?. Sure, some of us want a little more behind the scenes. We'd like this browser or 17 graphs telling us how our HDD and CPU are doing, does the average user really care what temperature component x is giving off? This (as many have said) is the beautiful thing about Linux Distro's. There is something for everyone. elementaryOS is for the early birds and basic users and I've already introduced a few people to it who couldn't be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm a little stunned. I just found out about this thing called PearOS (yeah, I don't read many Linux articles :laugh: ) and...it's almost identical to elementaryOS! Does this mean the eOS team continued that project?! :s I always thought this distro was developed from scratch (the GUI I mean). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm a little stunned. I just found out about this thing called PearOS (yeah, I don't read many Linux articles :laugh: ) and...it's almost identical to elementaryOS! Does this mean the eOS team continued that project?! :s I always thought this distro was developed from scratch (the GUI I mean).I believe PearOS was shut down by Apple because their were using similar icons of iOS and they were bought it. They never said the truth, the team later said that they were bought out (without mentioning the company) and then shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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