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Windows X64 Only Alternative Poll

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  1. 1. Should Windows 9 be X64 only?

    • X64 only with WOW(32-bit support)
      54
    • Continue x86 releases too
      23
    • X64 only without WOW(32-bit support)
      9

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I thought I'd make an alternative poll that covers the three main answers from the other thread.

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Not sure if we need another thread but *shrug* x64 OS itself, sure, it's about time.. x64 systems are hardly some new thing, those old Athon XP's and such should be dying off by now due to age. Server's are already there, the desktops should eventually go that way too. Ditching compatibility with millions of programs for zero benefit? No that's retarded. I have no desire to set up a VM just so I can play an older game or something. An OS that runs only a fraction of the programs I need it to? No thanks.
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Make it x64-only with WOW-support.

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"Dead horse, I will continue to beat you."

 

Even Microsoft recommends installing the 32-bit version of Office on 64-bit machines, because of plugin support. Windows x64 only is still 5-10 years away. Just my $0.02.

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X64 only without WOW32 would make Windows RT look successful by comparison.

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Yeah. I think it's about time, we move to 64-bit with WoW32 support.

 

Many components used a couple of years ago, has 64-bit support. Even the shitty atom from my netbook (2010) has 64-bit hardware capabilities.

 

It's been many years now, since computer come with sufficient and powerful hardware to do so.

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Apple did it..

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I'd say continue with 32bit releases due to the fact that netbooks came with processors that are only capable of handling 32bit OSes. And someone mentioned in the other thread that some Windows 8 tablets are still using x86 processors.

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I think it's time to move PCs (towers & laptops) to x64 only (w/ wow32) but I think x86 should still be made available but only for tablets

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How many of these netbook/tablet users that have x86 processors will be upgrading to Windows 9?

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I think most modern computers use enough memory that they would need 64 bit Windows anyways.

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I would say 64bit with wow support.

 

 

without wow support over 80% program wont run. 

 

and no one will buy a system if they cant run there 32bit programs.

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double-width compare and exchange (CMPXCHG16B) CPU instruction is needed for 64-bit Windows 8.1, it's not supported in old x64 AMD processors and some x64 Intel processors can be effected if the motherboard doesn't have support for it. Windows 8.1 32-bit works with these systems. The instruction has been supported for more than a decade so it shouldn't matter, I'm just using it as an example that even 64-bit processors can be get problems with using 64-bit software over 32-bit.

 

The use of the instruction was to improve security effectiveness.

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If someone is running hardware without AMD64 support then they should probably upgrade their hardware

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If someone is running hardware without AMD64 support then they should probably upgrade their hardware

Not all AMD64 hardware is supported.

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"Dead horse, I will continue to beat you."

 

Even Microsoft recommends installing the 32-bit version of Office on 64-bit machines, because of plugin support. Windows x64 only is still 5-10 years away. Just my $0.02.

That is STILL rewarding developers for dragging their feet.  How long has x64 been selling in greater numbers than x32?  In the case of Windows, going back to Vista - in the case of Office, since Office 2010 - in that case, basically from the start, as 2010 was the first x64 version of Office.  I don't reward foot-dragging by browser developers (and there is no longer a reason to, as the biggest culprit in terms of browser plug-ins - Adobe - DOES have an x64 Flash Player - for Waterfox), so why should we keep on rewarding foot-dragging by any other developers?  Unless developers have incentive to move, they won't - and we ALL know it.

  Threshold should include a warning for developers - WoW64 is going away with the next version;  they have dragged their feet long enough.

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Apple did it..

Apple STILL hasn't moved to fully x64 - like Windows x64 (or Linux x64, for that matter), there are still x32 parts of the OS (and for the same reason there are in both Windows and Linux - the infamous "backward-compatibiilty support")  And that is in Yosemite - and every OS X prior.

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I found a person with these specs Windows 7 32-bit, 2.2 Ghz Core 2 Duo and Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT. He'd probably be able to play the top three steam games with no issues with those specs, I wonder why he sticks with 32-bit. Though I don't know how much physical ram he has in that system.
 

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It's pointless releasing another 32-bit version of Windows as all PCs come with at least 4GB of RAM nowadays.

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World of Warcraft even has 64-bit mode and it reduces out of memory crashes usually caused by flaky plugins/UI mods. It also increases FPS by a few frames.

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What year will we move on to 64-bit, if not now ?

 

I'd think true programmers would enjoy rewriting the out-dated 32-bit programs.

 

Kind of a mystery why we aren't stepping forward to 128-bit by now ...

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Apple did it..

Apple and MS segment the market in different fashions. If MS were to go 64bit, which they should it would take alot for focus and development to update their entire ecosystem.

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I think, Microsoft needs to come up with a definite deadline as to when X86 versions of their software will be discontinued and when we can expect to see WOW64 layer being dropped completely from X64 versions. The clear roadmap will allow developers to focus their energies on specific architecture while coding. Let the businesses who will want to run 8 bit apps of last century remain forever on the old operating systems of their choice. They are not going to upgrade to newer versions of Windows anyways.

It would be awesome if Windows 9 is X64 only with WOW64 layer in 2015. Then from 2018, Windows goes pure X64 without WOW.

Microsoft needs to convey their vision to developers. But as usual, Microsoft will remain confused and push unimportant ideas like abomination called Modern UI and likes instead of X64.

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its harder to find x64 plugins for free video editors and free video players.

 

 

and some devs say there is no reason to make an x64 because it not needed and some 64bit software is unstable in windows 8, compared to windows 7. I dont know what the heck happened with that. 

 

 

 

things are slowly switching, everyone is used to 32bit because of windows xp

 

yeah there was a 64bit of windows xp, but drivers where crap. and not many home consumers used it.

 

vista was the push the got companies going and  companies took long time to get there act together and it still on going.

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I think it will be another release or two before we get 64bit only versions with WOW32 support, but I think it'll be at least another decade before WOW32 is ditched or kept as an optional addition.

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