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#1 Sszecret

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:29

I've recently been asked the very question in the title, and I wasn't sure what to answer, so I thought I'd ask you guys.

I should also mention that it came from a guy looking to buy a laptop for about 600 to 650 dollars. 

 

The choice is between:

 

1) 15.6 inch Lenovo Ideapad G5070, core i3-4030U at 1.90GHz, 4GB of RAM, 1TB storage, and an AMD Radeon R5 M230 2GB (about $540)

 

and 

 

2) 15.6 inch Asus X552CL-SX033D, Core i5-3337U at 1.80GHz, 4GB of RAM, 500GB, nVidia GeForce 710M 1GB (about $600)

 

Other suggestions are also welcome. 

 

He wants to play games (WoW, LOL and such) and mostly consume media. 




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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:58

I suppose if he wants to play games you could look at the graphic card specs and compare? I'm not across graphic cards these days (no gamer by any means).

 

If it was me, I'd go with the i5 because that'd have more horse power to play the game. I'd prefer a game that the CPU can clearly keep up  and the graphics OK, compared to a PC that can't keep up with the game but the graphics look sweet (reminds me of playing Starcraft 1 on my 586 back in the day).

 

But yeah, I'm no gamer so I'm not sure if that's how it works in the real world. 



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:09

Go for the Lenovo, it has newer generation processor (Haswell 4xxx vs Ivy Bridge 3xxx) which means it will have better battery life. Speed wise they are both roughly the same.
The graphics chip in the Lenovo packs a bigger punch:
http://www.game-deba...vs-geforce-710m

It's also cheaper and has double the storage.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:22

Lenovo model you mentioned is a clear winner.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:49

Just remember that everything without an SSD will feel slow nowadays.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:56

Just remember that everything without an SSD will feel slow nowadays.

 

Don't be so negative. :p Everything without a SSD feels normal, those with SSDs feel lightning fast.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 10:14

I suppose if he wants to play games you could look at the graphic card specs and compare? I'm not across graphic cards these days (no gamer by any means).

 

If it was me, I'd go with the i5 because that'd have more horse power to play the game. I'd prefer a game that the CPU can clearly keep up  and the graphics OK, compared to a PC that can't keep up with the game but the graphics look sweet (reminds me of playing Starcraft 1 on my 586 back in the day).

 

But yeah, I'm no gamer so I'm not sure if that's how it works in the real world. 

 

I was thinking about the same. Maybe he could upgrade the graphics card further down the road if he needs to. 

 

 

Go for the Lenovo, it has newer generation processor (Haswell 4xxx vs Ivy Bridge 3xxx) which means it will have better battery life. Speed wise they are both roughly the same.
The graphics chip in the Lenovo packs a bigger punch:
http://www.game-deba...vs-geforce-710m

It's also cheaper and has double the storage.

 

 

Lenovo model you mentioned is a clear winner.

 

Yeah, but I'm still not entirely convinced graphics-wise. 


Just remember that everything without an SSD will feel slow nowadays.

 

An SSD would ideed be nice, but wouldn't it add quite a considerable chunk of change to the price? I don't think he'd be ok with a 128 GB option. 



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 14:06

If the person wants to game half decently then none of those will cut it, he's going to need to double the budget and even the will have a hard time raiding in WoW if that's his eventual goal, don't play LoL but I'm fairly sure he won't be too competitive there either. 

 

Might want to cross post this question in the PC gaming forum too, you could possibly find a decent compromise 



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 14:24

Both those videocards are complete garbage, barely faster than the IGP. Also why are both the processors the low-power versions? There should be laptops with better CPU/GPU at that price. I bought an i5-4200M with a 740M in december at 500€, it wasn't bad at all.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 14:32

Both those videocards are complete garbage, barely faster than the IGP. Also why are both the processors the low-power versions? There should be laptops with better CPU/GPU at that price.

 

Fair enough. Do you have any suggestions? 

 

 

If the person wants to game half decently then none of those will cut it, he's going to need to double the budget and even the will have a hard time raiding in WoW if that's his eventual goal, don't play LoL but I'm fairly sure he won't be too competitive there either. 

 

Might want to cross post this question in the PC gaming forum too, you could possibly find a decent compromise 

 

Ok then, will do. 



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 14:48

Fair enough. Do you have any suggestions? 

 

In that price range you should find laptops with Geforces 740M or Radeon M265. If you don't care much about the battery it's better to buy a non-U model.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 14:54

In that price range you should find laptops with Geforces 740M or Radeon M265. If you don't care much about the battery it's better to buy a non-U model.

 

Would this http://shop.lenovo.c.../g-series/g510/ be better? 



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 15:22

Would this http://shop.lenovo.c.../g-series/g510/ be better? 

 

I don't know. I think the Intel HD4600 is overall faster than the 710M (it also scores better on videocardbenchmark) but since it doesn't have dedicated memory there could be games where it runs much worse. The i5-4200M is certainly faster than U models though.

 

What about asking on a DOTA forum? They could likely tell you which build works better. There are some games where the CPU can be far more limiting than the GPU, especially those based on the Valve Source engine: maybe DOTA would work better with the i5-4200m and integrated graphics than with a 740M and a low-power CPU (U series).



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 21:41

I don't know. I think the Intel HD4600 is overall faster than the 710M (it also scores better on videocardbenchmark) but since it doesn't have dedicated memory there could be games where it runs much worse. The i5-4200M is certainly faster than U models though.

 

What about asking on a DOTA forum? They could likely tell you which build works better. There are some games where the CPU can be far more limiting than the GPU, especially those based on the Valve Source engine: maybe DOTA would work better with the i5-4200m and integrated graphics than with a 740M and a low-power CPU (U series).

When did he even talk about Dota? If it's for Dota, then there are no worries at all. I play it on a 1.4GHz i3 and integrated ###### video and it performs just fine. Either will work perfectly. On a separate note, I have an old 2.6Ghz E8200 in my PC and so far it maxes out every Source engine game (3GB RAM, GTX260 for the record). So I don't agree on the "limiting CPU" part. In fact Source has got to be the best written engine ever so I don't think it limits anything.

 

And yes, a newer CPU comes first, then RAM.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 23:14

When did he even talk about Dota? If it's for Dota, then there are no worries at all. I play it on a 1.4GHz i3 and integrated ###### video and it performs just fine. Either will work perfectly. On a separate note, I have an old 2.6Ghz E8200 in my PC and so far it maxes out every Source engine game (3GB RAM, GTX260 for the record). So I don't agree on the "limiting CPU" part. In fact Source has got to be the best written engine ever so I don't think it limits anything.

 

And yes, a newer CPU comes first, then RAM.

Sorry, I confused LOL with DOTA. The i3 you used likely had an HD graphics, the newest Intel IGPs are faster than the AMD/Nvidia base models and on par with their mid-range models (hence the reason Apple only puts a dedicated GPU only on the most expensive Macbooks). Also I was referring to multiplayer Source games, e.g. TF2 is heavily CPU-bound, you can have a GTX780 yet you would have huge frame drops without a proper processor. Regarding RAM I think 8gb are out of the price range (600$), however in the same range he can find a non-U i5 and/or a 740M (or AMD 265).