Veteran ticketed escorting body

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A veteran escorting the body of Private Steven Allen, the soldier who died after a military training exercise in Alberta, was given a ticket by police while part of the funeral procession.

Debbi Ferguson was pulled over by Victoria police while she was part of the procession in Victoria.

Ferguson, a 20-year military veteran, was pulled over and issued a ticket for $230 while part of a funeral procession taking the body from the airport to a funeral home.

She told CBC Victoria's Jo-Ann Roberts that there is a code in the military.

"We never leave anyone behind and we never let a soldier come home alone."

Her car had a flag at half mast and her four-way flashers were on. The ticket was given to Ferguson because her license plate was obstructed.

Her first thought when the officer pulled in behind her and flashed his lights was that the officer was going to help the motorcade.

"That didn't happen," Ferguson said, "He shouted out on his microphone to pull over immediately. We were just in shock."

She said, "We were already in an emotional state and it was Remembrance Day. It's hard on all of us veterans and soldiers that a fellow man at arms would pull me over and pull me out of this escort."

Ferguson said when she explained to the officer about the procession he told her he didn't care and that he went to his car and came back with the ticket. "I looked at him and I'm like I am sorry this is most disrespectful thing I have seen anyone do"

A spokesperson for the Victoria Police said in a statement that the action of its officer was "regrettable."
 
"We recognize that this report of a ticket being issued to fellow community members volunteering their time to see a compatriot home is regrettable. This is especially true on a day when many members of our community, including many VicPD officers, were paying our own respects to the fallen."
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So her number plate was obscured and she was breaking the law.  There's nothing special about her and she should learn not to cover her car in crap in the future.

 

She was part of a cortege. Admittedly not above the law but at any time, this is the time to cut some slack.

If this really bothered this cop, he should have discretely asked the driver to clear the numberplate.

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Given the views posted about the article on CBC it would appear to highlight a feud by the local Police department against the Military personnel stationed nearby.

My personal view is the Officer could have used more decorum, showing poor attitude and compassion to A: a serving officer and B: A deceased officer

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I feel so much safer that he ticketed her. :rolleyes:

I'm so glad that you think that law enforcement should only be done when it is convenient.

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Sad to see that Liberals and their hatred of the Military and Veterans is not restricted to here in the US. 

 

Officer douchebag knew it was a military funeral procession and still went out of his way to harass them, that's pathetic to the max 


Professional killers?sorry, soldiers?aren't above the law. Could the situation have been handled better? Probably, but the officer was perfectly justified in issue the ticket.

 

The adulation that soldiers receive in the US is rather unhealthy.

 

Why am I not surprised you're here spouting hateful comments, again, we get it you hate freedom and choice, and you also choose to not show respect to those willing to die for your freedom to spout your usual hateful nonsense 

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I'm surprised the cop didn't shoot her. That said if the plate was obstructed you should be pulled over. However, IMO that warrants a warning - how in the hell can you justify a $230 ticket for that?

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Basically news article is "woman broke law and got punished"

Wouldn't be surprised if she gave the officer crap when he pulled her over, hence the $230 ticket.

 

Be pleasant and treat the police like human beings, they usually don't ticket you (in my experience anyway)

Be an ass?  Enjoy your trip to court. 

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Professional killers?sorry, soldiers?aren't above the law. Could the situation have been handled better? Probably, but the officer was perfectly justified in issue the ticket.

 

The adulation that soldiers receive in the US is rather unhealthy.

 

What does the US have to do with this?  Did you not read the article?  I guess your vile attitude towards the military clouds your reading ability.

 

Regarding the traffic ticket...such rubbish anyways.  A funeral procession of all things.  At least the VicPD acknowledged that the actions of the officer were regrettable.

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Professional killers?sorry, soldiers?aren't above the law. Could the situation have been handled better? Probably, but the officer was perfectly justified in issue the ticket.

 

The adulation that soldiers receive in the US is rather unhealthy.

 

Unbelievable, in other threads you have complained how heavy handed the police can be, but in this situation it would be the wrong thing to cut some slack and just give a verbal reprimand.

 

Also, what in the world does the US have to do with an incident that occurred in Canada?  Just another display of your unhealthy, hateful obsession with the US.

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What does the US have to do with this?  Did you not read the article?

Also, what in the world does the US have to do with an incident that occurred in Canada?

That's my mistake and I apologise profusely. :blush: I skim read the article and saw a reference to Ferguson, hence why I assumed it related to the US. Still, it speaks to an overarching trend in North America that veterans deserve special treatment - something Canada clearly shares with the US. That is simply something we don't see over here.

 

The issue is the expectation that veterans should be above the law, that the police should not interfere for reverence towards their profession. In the UK there is no such thing as a 'veteran' - retired soldiers don't garner any extra respect, nor do they try to use it to their advantage. The implication of the article is that it is an outrage that a police officer would have the audacity to enforce the law.

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The issue is the expectation that veterans should be above the law, that the police should not interfere for reverence towards their profession. In the UK there is no such thing as a 'veteran' - retired soldiers don't garner any extra respect, nor do they try to use it to their advantage. The implication of the article is that it is an outrage that a police officer would have the audacity to enforce the law.

 

[cough]Please stop your just being insulting.......All veterans are worthy of respect because they fought in their interests of their country amongst other things, to allow you to speak your mind, even those HERE in the UK.If you would read the comments I already alluded to in the original article it clearly states the local LAW ENFORCEMENT has a grudge against the LOCAL MILITARY.

 

That aside it was a slur and callous act carried out with intent during the passage of a war veteran in a funeral procession even if the person had not been a veteran it was the wrong time and place.The Officer could have noted down the details and contacted the driver after the event,he clearly chose not to.

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I am getting so sick of all these Veteran related "incidents" that are nothing but people that think they are above the law because they are vets.. nothing against them, it's great they put their lives on the line to protect the country but seriously, that doesn't mean you have a line item veto against laws you see not to your liking. I've seen everything from vets screaming on getting ticketed for jay walking, to putting a flag on their house when in a HOA they moved into fully knowing the rules said no flags on the house to driving without licenses, to stuff like this... all of which would either get you fined or worse if you kept repeated offending.. news flash, yes you are a vet, but no that doesn't mean you can do what ever you please.... you don't follow the rules you get it just like anyone else... channels like Fox News that jump all over stuff like this as a 1st amendment violation (for incidents in the USA) need to be quiet also

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a special occasion allows the law to be broken? In some cases it seems to make sense to allow it, but then if you allow it for one, you must allow it for all and that's no good for anyone.

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Read the headline? "Veteran ticketed escorting body of Private Steven Allen"

Yep I stand corrected she is a Military Veteren but as I said already he could have issued the ticket after the procession at no point was she requesting that the ticket be not issued only in the manner it was carried out

 

 

Ferguson said when she explained to the officer about the procession he told her he didn't care and that he went to his car and came back with the ticket

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Yep I stand corrected she is a Military Veteren but as I said already he could have issued the ticket after the procession at no point was she requesting that the ticket be not issued only in the manner it was carried out

 

 

It's not the police's job to wait, when they see a violation, they are suppose to act on it immediately.

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