remixedcat Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/01/16/obama-sides-with-cameron-in-encryption-fight/ US President Barack Obama delivers remarks at the National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center (NCCIC) in Arlington, Virginia, USA, 13 January 2015. EPA/Kristoffer Tripplaar / POOL President Barack Obama said Friday that police and spies should not be locked out of encrypted smartphones and messaging apps, taking his first public stance in a simmering battle over private communications in the digital age. Apple, Google GOOGL +1.28% and Facebook FB +1.53% have introduced encrypted products in the past half year that the companies say they could not unscramble, even if faced with a search warrant. That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 too bad i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 How would you propose governments gather Intel on those that would harm us? Magic? I'm not saying his solution is the best one, but he's got a valid problem to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If there's a way of bypassing security, an unauthorised party will find a way in also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Topham Hatt Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 While I don't like the thought of the government "spying" on me, it's highly unlikely they will do. That is the price to pay for a safer world. Otherwise you may as well not bother with your ESTA America, and let any one and everyone in to kill and terrorise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 While I don't like the thought of the government "spying" on me, it's highly unlikely they will do. That is the price to pay for a safer world. Otherwise you may as well not bother with your ESTA America, and let any one and everyone in to kill and terrorise. This has nothing to do with "fighting" terrorism, no matter what Obama or Cameron say, this is about government intrusions into your personal info, you know, nanny state and all that nonsense the Left here loves so much, and what you Brits have also psmoked 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 And yet they just caught up an Ohio new convert on jihad who was going to shoot and blow up Congress because of a trapped IM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 This has nothing to do with "fighting" terrorism, no matter what Obama or Cameron say, this is about government intrusions into your personal info, you know, nanny state and all that nonsense the Left here loves so much, and what you Brits have also That happens on both sides of the one-dimensional political spectrum, and for the record, since you mentioned the UK, our four biggest political parties - Conservatives, Labour, Liberal Democrats and UKIP - are all right-wing authoritarians (with Labour & the Lib Dems pretending to be left-wing and UKIP pretending to be libertarian). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daorbed9 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If there's a way in or out, secure or not, an unauthorised party will find a way in also. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted January 22, 2015 MVC Share Posted January 22, 2015 Knowing there's a back door just ensure's that eventually (not if) hackers will find a back door. There's enough of flaws in code you don't need to make back door's, some will show up on there own eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co-ords Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Only solution, don't use any form of electronic device to store sensitive data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted January 22, 2015 MVC Share Posted January 22, 2015 It will make it illegal for companies who encrypt not to include a back door. Do you think terrorists give a ###### about what's legal and what's not? They will just create their own encrypted form of communication that doesn't have a back door, regardless if it's illegal or not. So to summarize. The honest person using these encryption programs will now have their data eventually broken into by hackers using the backdoor the government mandated that they put in. The terrorists will go right along with their business using their own software. psmoked and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Only solution, don't use any form of electronic device to store sensitive data. Yeep! but soon enough they will want carbon copys of ever single thought you put on paper./s Co-ords 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Knowing there's a back door just ensure's that eventually (not if) hackers will find a back door. There's enough of flaws in code you don't need to make back door's, some will show up on there own eventually. No need for device level back door code, NSA taps directly into the carriers fiber lines, and sometimes undersea cables. At AT&T they have a facility called Room 641A where things happen. Look up Hepting vs AT&T, a case which was dismissed after FISA Amendments Act was passed to give the carriers retroactive immunity from privacy lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 yeah, you could spots any companies that in bed with big brother when such companies having some form of immunity from lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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