Fish Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Madness, lunacy. The Onion says it best... http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-dont-vaccinate-my-child-because-its-my-right-to,37839/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinMacLin Guy Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 This is so ridiculous. What irks me the most is that a lot of the parents I have seen who bang the anti-vaccine drum actually got vaccinated when they were younger. I am sympathetic to people living in lesser industrialized places resisting vaccination because many of them do not have the information readily accessible to people living in industrialized nations. However, these Californian parents are middle-class educated (although clearly not enough, because they seem to lack the most basic critical thinking skills) folks; are they really putting their kids in danger (not to mention other people, because they are breaking down herd immunization) just because distrusting modern medicine is the in-thing to do. In my honest opinion, I believe this is really more of an excuse (conscious or unconscious) for the parents to get together for a social gathering rather than an actual measure to protect their kids (the parents clearly do not think measles is a big danger to their kids). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clirion Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The article is patently untrue. It's well known that the increase in such diseases is due mostly to the migration from former Eastern European or Middle Eastern nations where immunization was nowhere near as prevalent. Sure, we have some anti-vaxxers; idiots get everywhere, but they're not responsible for the main increase in outbreaks. The article was based on the figures from WHO. Nowhere have I been able to find the break down as migration from Easter Europe or the Middle East nations. http://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications/Publications/measles-rubella-surveillance-oct-2013.pdf That is the link to the report the numbers came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 not quite sure about illegal migrants, but legal ones must be vaccinated as part of the procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I really wanna hold a party to get these parents killed like snake pits, lions, sharks with freakin lazer beams on thier heads, scabies, rabies, ebola, and hepes for good measure. They can have all that for a low low price of 199999.99! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2beta Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I really wanna hold a party to get these parents killed like snake pits, lions, sharks with freakin lazer beams on thier heads, scabies, rabies, ebola, and hepes for good measure. They can have all that for a low low price of 199999.99! You want to hold a party to get people killed, and who is the crazy one now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You want to hold a party to get people killed, and who is the crazy one now? its kind of sad that the only thing you can respond to in this thread is a satirical post. 11 Deaths Reported in the United States for the week ending February 7, 2015 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6405md.htm#tab1 6 completely unnecessary deaths from measles alone last week, Good job guys. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You want to hold a party to get people killed, and who is the crazy one now? Remix was being sarcastic regarding the parties that people through to get their kids infected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-health-officials-warn-against-measles-parties/ remixedcat 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Remix was being sarcastic regarding the parties that people through to get their kids infected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-health-officials-warn-against-measles-parties/ You want to hold a party to get people killed, and who is the crazy one now? What mudslag said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, your government is here to help. Is this video for real or is it some sort of comedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Is this video for real or is it some sort of comedy? It has Rob Schneider in it so I think you can safely rule out comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Once again, America shows it has more in common with the developed world than the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Topham Hatt Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This was common as ever in the UK during the 1980's and 1990's; pox parties. It's only recently in the last 12 months been highlighted because some people don't want to "infect" their kids. Yeah, and wait until they may catch it as an adult and end up seriously ill? While I can see some people may bend it so much as to suggest the parent is being cruel to their child by allowing them, and encouraging them to be infected, if you think that way, then why bother getting any injections for any babies? I sort of see it as a right of passage, much like the TB jab in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So basically, "vaccination parties" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This was common as ever in the UK during the 1980's and 1990's; pox parties. It's only recently in the last 12 months been highlighted because some people don't want to "infect" their kids. Yeah, and wait until they may catch it as an adult and end up seriously ill? While I can see some people may bend it so much as to suggest the parent is being cruel to their child by allowing them, and encouraging them to be infected, if you think that way, then why bother getting any injections for any babies? I sort of see it as a right of passage, much like the TB jab in the UK. Chicken pox and measles aren't comparable. Measles is incredible dangerous; it's one of the top 5 killers of children worldwide. Chicken pox is largely harmless beyond the irritation of the rash it causes. Vaccinations exist for chicken pox there is no need to infect your kids with it unless you enjoy watching them suffer needlessly. TPreston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Chicken pox and measles aren't comparable. Measles is incredible dangerous; it's one of the top 5 killers of children worldwide. Chicken pox is largely harmless beyond the irritation of the rash it causes. > I take it you've never had shingles, aka herpes zoster? It's one of the lasting gifts you can get from having had chicken pox. The first varicella zoster virus infection causes chicken pox, then it hides in the nervous system for months to decades until it arises again as painful skin eruptions. 3-4 million cases a year in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well considering there is a vaccination for Chicken Pox I imagine that is somewhat of a moot point. The advice seems to be clear: vaccinated you kids, don't expose them to things which are potentially very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I totally agree. These anti-vaccine activists are maddening, and a lot of it comes from fear-mongering Hollyweird types and TV "health shows." Ughh... Nogib, psmoked and DConnell 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I totally agree. These anti-vaccine activists are maddening, and a lot of it comes from fear-mongering Hollyweird types and TV "health shows." Ughh... Such people should be prosecuted for child endangerment. DConnell and Nogib 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Such people should be prosecuted for child endangerment. Agreed, the medical community may have allot of things that will get both Dr. and Nurses in heated arguments over the usefulness of. But vaccines do not fall into this category and are accepted science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clirion Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 We officially have the 1st case of a child dying because of the measles. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-toddler-dies-measles-germany-20150224-story.html An 18-month-old boy has died of measles amid an outbreak in Berlin, a hospital in the German capital said Tuesday.. An autopsy on the child, who wasn't inoculated against measles, showed that he had an unspecified other disease as well but that wouldn't have led to his death without the measles infection, the Charite hospital said. It is the first known death in an outbreak in which Berlin has recorded more than 570 cases since October. The child was right around vaccination age for measles, however, if everyone that could be vaccinated would have been, most likely the child would not have gotten it to begin with. TPreston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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