patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 11, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2015 Is anyone having trouble with Windows update not working or taking an extremely long time? I'm talking about hours from download to install. I installed the Windows 10 updates yesterday and it completely hosed my system so I erased and installed Windows 8.1 till 10 goes to RTM. I am running all the updates and they are taking so incredibly long. I've installed Windows plenty of times and I've never seen it go so slow like this. EDIT: I've also begun getting "another installation is running" message or error 1500 when trying to re-install my stuff. This is on a clean installation of Windows 8.1. I've never seen this issue before of not being able to install something. I tried updating my nVidia driver and it told me it couldn't because another installation was running. I am not running anything else at all other than Windows Update in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy_Hippo Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yup, having exactly the same problem - left the pc on overnight with 20 updates left to go and it just stayed there. Tried to update Nvidia drivers and it says it can't as another update is taking place. All a bit annoying really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 11, 2015 MVC Share Posted February 11, 2015 Might be this? Microsoft's patch KB3001652 is causing PCs to lockup https://www.neowin.net/news/microsofts-patch-kb3001652-is-causing-pcs-to-lockup Pygmy_Hippo 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseyWales Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 You might need too delete the boot partition created by the install for 8. Should be 350mb or so and reside on the primary drive for windows. Getting upgraded to 10 it might be messed up as well. When you install a fresh 8 it ill create it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 11, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2015 Well, I've reinstalled Windows 8.1 four times. It keeps having these really strange problems where it won't update and I get errors trying to install programs. I commonly get error 1500 that another installation is in progress. Other times, like now, I am trying to reinstall Lightroom and the installer is just sitting there frozen at 0%. I've never seen issues like this. Could it actually be something hardware related? When I ran Windows update, I had to leave the computer overnight after reboot just for it to install the updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted February 11, 2015 Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2015 Have you tried the fix-its for Windows Update yet? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 11, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2015 No I haven't tried that. I don't want to install some program that s going yo scan for problems then chage me for a fix. I just tried downloading an updated version of a program I use and the browser kept telling me the download was interrupted. Then when it finally did download, it told me the setup files were corrupted when I tried to run it. I'm really wondering if something went to g with my Samsung SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 No I haven't tried that. I don't want to install some program that s going yo scan for problems then chage me for a fix. Uhh... who's trying to charge you for a fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted February 11, 2015 Supervisor Share Posted February 11, 2015 No I haven't tried that. I don't want to install some program that s going yo scan for problems then chage me for a fix. I just tried downloading an updated version of a program I use and the browser kept telling me the download was interrupted. Then when it finally did download, it told me the setup files were corrupted when I tried to run it. I'm really wondering if something went to g with my Samsung SSD. It's possible that the drive is an issue, or it could be a network problem that's causing downloaded files to become corrupted. Maybe try downloading files with known hashes to see. Edit: a selection of test files, with provided hashes at the bottom of the page. I'd recommend the larger files. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted February 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted February 12, 2015 No I haven't tried that. I don't want to install some program that s going yo scan for problems then chage me for a fix. I just tried downloading an updated version of a program I use and the browser kept telling me the download was interrupted. Then when it finally did download, it told me the setup files were corrupted when I tried to run it. I'm really wondering if something went to g with my Samsung SSD. It's just an application that applies the commands listed on that page under the manual repair steps. You won't get charged for support from Microsoft unless you call them specifically and give them a credit card number. If you suspect the drive I'd try either the manufacturer's tools or HDTune and see if it's reported any SMART errors. Your issue sounds like it could either be that or a NIC driver problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 It's just an application that applies the commands listed on that page under the manual repair steps. You won't get charged for support from Microsoft unless you call them specifically and give them a credit card number. If you suspect the drive I'd try either the manufacturer's tools or HDTune and see if it's reported any SMART errors. Your issue sounds like it could either be that or a NIC driver problem. Sorry. I Googled a solution that masqueraded as a fox but I stalled a program then wanted $40 to fix the problem. I've ibstalled Windows on this PC many times so I dant imagine how it could be the network interface but I guess it's possible. The thing is that I was trying to install stuff that I already had downloaded and installed months ago and had problems. Adobe Lightroom still won't install. I'm running a chkdsk on the drive now but I'm not sure if it will find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm trying to use some diagnostic tools but they won't even install. This is getting very frustrating. I'm not even sure it would be the ethernet adapter if I am trying to install programs I had already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Run system restore to a previous working point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted February 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted February 12, 2015 You didn't mention if you did anything at all with your hardware before this happened, but I just remembered I had the same issue a few years back with corruption and it turned out to be a bad SATA cable. It's worth a try if you have an extra lying around. (It DID suddenly go *poof* and stop working, it wasn't a gradual degradation.) @xendrome: He said it was a fresh reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 To rule out one of the updates causing the problem, install them one by one. You should be able to select what updates to install and what not to. May take a while, but at least you will know its not one of the updates. Also, before doing a clean install, boot from the install media. Then press Shift f10. This should put you in a command prompt. Run... Diskpart list disk Select disk 0 (should be disk 0 as your primary HD. Verify when you run list disk) clean exit exit again to exit out of the command window. I have had issues installing, or windows working right, on machines to Win7 that had XP installed previously without running the diskpart commands first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't know, it's weird. I was still getting install hangs so I booted from my Win 8.1 DVD and installed to another SSD instead. The first thing I did (which I have always done) is install my nVidia drivers. Right now the progress bar has been stuck at around 95% for about 20 minutes. I clicked on the sound card driver and that's been stuck at 0% for 20 minutes. Just now a notification popped up that "Restore could not be completed. We weren't able to copy your settings over from SkyDrive." I have no idea what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted February 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted February 12, 2015 I got that error going back to 8.1 from the TP, too, but the settings did sync after about 10-20 minutes finally. Do you have a standard HDD you can use to test an install/update with, and did you try swapping out the drive cable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 I didn't try a different cable, but I have 2 SSD's on separate cables so yes I am trying another cable since I am now using the 2nd SSD. Still nothing is installing properly and these are drivers I've already had on my HDD for some time. The nVidia install never completed so I had to force quit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 Tried installing an updated nVidia driver, stuck at 95%. Tried again to install sound card driver, stuck at 0%. Different SSD and different cable. I find it highly unlikely that I have 2 bad drives and 2 bad cables at the same exact time. What the hell is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Veteran Posted February 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but last night my a/v caught a Windows update file that was "very new or rare" and by default was going to block the download. If something was partially downloaded or a piece was missing, it could maybe cause the issue? I checked on the file and then allowed it, but if I didn't have mine set to prompt me for everything, it might have just quietly blocked something in the background without me ever knowing what was going on. Long shot, but maybe check logs on yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Tried installing an updated nVidia driver, stuck at 95%. Tried again to install sound card driver, stuck at 0%. Different SSD and different cable. I find it highly unlikely that I have 2 bad drives and 2 bad cables at the same exact time. What the hell is going on? Just the vid/sound updates? Tried downloading the updated software directly from the NVIDIA or whoever you sound card manufacturer is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well, the installation is completely fresh. No AV software installed yet. I am seeing if maybe my 8.1 DVD got corrupted or something and just made a Windows 10 DVD and am going to try clean installing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted February 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted February 12, 2015 Before you wipe it again check the event log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimike Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Windows Update message Security Update for Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 8 (KB3034196) Actual, I'm running Windows 7 not Windows 8 or 8.1. Wait a momnent... Update: Windows Update has change log: Security Update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3034196) Installation date: ?2/?11/?2015 7:12 PM Installation status: Successful Update type: Important A security issue has been identified in a Microsoft software product that could affect your system. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. For a complete listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system. More information: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3034196 Help and Support: http://support.microsoft.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patseguin Global Moderator Posted February 12, 2015 Author Global Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2015 I am getting really ###### off. I clean installed Windows 10 this time and didn't run Windows update or anything yet. I just went to install the NVidia driver and it still gets stuck at 95%. This is really baffling. I wonder if I should my drives on the controller card I have. If I move the hard drives, which are software RAID0, to the controller card will the array stay intact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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