+Warwagon MVC Posted February 26, 2015 MVC Share Posted February 26, 2015 OS X users like to make fun of Windows users as the only ones that have a malware problem. But that Aergan and goretsky 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSNCain Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yep. I have been dealing with this for weeks now and it's almost impossible to remove without a complete reinstall of OS X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
link6155 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 OS X wasn't any more 'safe' than Windows in the first place, it might be even more unsafe actually. No one developed malware/crapware for OS X because there wasn't much point to do so. Due to this, Apple may have not put as much effort as Windows to make a secure operating system. If avoiding malware is one of the reason why you use OS X, maybe you should reconsider now. Romero, green_link, Jose_49 and 6 others 9 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 "No malware" for OSX was just a marketing thing. Nobody gave a crap, since its market share is so low, but leave it to Apple to exploit that to their advantage and fool the morons. I'll just grab the popcorn and watch this blowing up, because with their update reputation it's gonna be a long time before they fix anything when it needs fixing. neo158, goretsky, Romero and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Eh almost all of that still boils down to careless users, really nothing that can be fixed unless you want the OS to not let you install anything. Safe computing habits isn't specific to a particular OS. webdev511 and Jose_49 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scrip Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 And now download sites, fake ads for software on search engines, and sketchy applications are bundling adware and crapware into installers for legitimate software. Damn them... damn them all to hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 They're a major player, doesn't surprise me that malicious little pricks would write malware for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 No platform is safe and I have always said that education is the best way to protect against this. Most of this crap is installed by people clicking the wrong thing or not reading what the screen says. Used to have to help my family out several times a month with this crap. I took a little extra time to go over the dos and donts and educate them a little. And told them when in doubt, shoot a message. No I hardly hear about issues with this kind of thing. Hurmoth, The Evil Overlord and Jose_49 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 No platform is safe and I have always said that education is the best way to protect against this. Most of this crap is installed by people clicking the wrong thing or not reading what the screen says. Used to have to help my family out several times a month with this crap. I took a little extra time to go over the dos and donts and educate them a little. And told them when in doubt, shoot a message. No I hardly hear about issues with this kind of thing. Totally agree, but some of the blame goes to the OS devs too. Yeah, it's common sense to read what the damn installation wizard says, but when you hype your OS as being untouchable by malware it's obvious that many people will feel untouchable and they won't give a damn about being careful. I really think there should be some kind of requirement to specifically say "no viruses/malware THAT WE KNOW OF", or "YET", because that line can easily be taken the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Been trying to help someone at work with removing malware from their MacBook. Any suggestions on how to find and remove it? I tried looking in the obvious places but they're still getting random popups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSNCain Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Been trying to help someone at work with removing malware from their MacBook. Any suggestions on how to find and remove it? I tried looking in the obvious places but they're still getting random popups. Have them back up their important files if they can and just do a complete reinstall. Zoom7000 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yep. I have been dealing with this for weeks now and it's almost impossible to remove without a complete reinstall of OS X. http://www.adwaremedic.com/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Been trying to help someone at work with removing malware from their MacBook. Any suggestions on how to find and remove it? I tried looking in the obvious places but they're still getting random popups. You have to remove your employer spying software from your co-worker's MacBook, that would fix it. 123456789A 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 No platform is safe and I have always said that education is the best way to protect against this. Most of this crap is installed by people clicking the wrong thing or not reading what the screen says. Used to have to help my family out several times a month with this crap. I took a little extra time to go over the dos and donts and educate them a little. And told them when in doubt, shoot a message. No I hardly hear about issues with this kind of thing. Windows users have a major problem reading stuff that pops up in front of their eyes, usually they just want it to go away and click "Yes", "OK" or "Install" and so on. But they know that virus and other nasty stuff can infect their computer so they rely in firewalls, AV and other solutions to avoid the danger; OSX users, on the other hand, have this wrong notion / idea that OSX is safe and won't be a crapfest like their previous Windows computers became. If they continue visiting dubious websites and executing every attachment they receive via email, then OSX won't be that safe heaven they rely on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSNCain Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 http://www.adwaremedic.com/index.php Doesn't work. I have tried it several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradient456 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The problem is installing from bundled crapware installer company like cnet and download.com The problem is exaggerate. Also yahoo results give all crappy result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The problem is installing from bundled crapware installer company like cnet and download.com The problem is exaggerate. Also yahoo results give all crappy result Maybe, but a little common sense, and a minute extra reading a 'pop up' wouldn't go astray neither, regardless of the user's level of experience, common sense is key. Unsure about something? Use a search engine. Looks genuine? Check anyway. (One of the most common ones) Adobe Flash update? Hit no. (It will tell you there and then if it's genuine as it'll insist or give a pop up that you are vulnerable or try to stop you from navigating away. A genuine flash update can be done via control panel on all windows computers up to 7 (I believe it's called something else in 8 and on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 This this this this this x 10000 times. It's the main reason why Windows is so much hated these days. OEM bloatware + seamless clicking, even an i7 Desktop with SSD comes down to its knees with several pretty bad programs that come bundled with pre-built PCs and mindless installations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 If you spend money through it, they will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xWhiplash Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 OS X wasn't any more 'safe' than Windows in the first place, it might be even more unsafe actually. No one developed malware/crapware for OS X because there wasn't much point to do so. Due to this, Apple may have not put as much effort as Windows to make a secure operating system. If avoiding malware is one of the reason why you use OS X, maybe you should reconsider now. Care to explain how OS 9 had more viruses than OS X? a0me 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_over Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 If people are going to install stuff without taking any notice then their computer was never safe regardless of OS, i'll be alarmed when my Mac can be infected without me interacting with it. Until then, i'm calling click bait article / fanboy porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoken Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The handy thing about MacOS is most of this crapware is blocked if you keep the trusted/signed sources checked under security.. But no security is 100%, of course, not Mac, Linux, or Windows. Personal Responsibility is a big thing here. If you don't KNOW who wrote it, don't install it. Make sure you get it from the source. Look up names of any programs you are considering installing before you install them. Solution once you get it can differ, but imho the best is always nuke it. Backup your data, then burn it and start fresh. Then you know it's gone. The Evil Overlord and a0me 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinMacLin Guy Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Care to explain how OS 9 had more viruses than OS X? OS 9 was an inherently more vulnerable system just due to the way it was architected (back in the day, I recall that it was not difficult to create a self-executing script that would delete all of a users information, repeatedly delete things from the Applications folder, modify another program's memory space, etc on a classic Mac OS machine), even amateur coders could create simple scripts and applications that could do something damaging (hence why I believe there were more viruses for OS 9); with OS X, I believe that up until but not including Lion, Apple ignored implementing appropriate infrastructural security, but OS X's Unix underpinnings made the OS far more difficult to attack than OS 9, thus it would have taken a more seasoned hacker to create malware that would exploit OS X hence why I believe there was less than what was available in OS 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Eh almost all of that still boils down to careless users, really nothing that can be fixed unless you want the OS to not let you install anything. Safe computing habits isn't specific to a particular OS. same is true for windows. Doesn't change the fact that in 2014 OSX was most vulnerable OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 same is true for windows. It's true for any OS, thought I hinted at that in my post. Android, Windows, OSX, Linux, whatever -- do stupid stuff and act like the Internet is a warm fuzzy place and blindly download/execute anything without a care and you're going to wreck your system, plain and simple.. barring unpatched vulnerabilities nearly all of these problems are not due to the OS.. it's the end user that caused the problem,no OS in the world can protect you from yourself. The most number of malware does not mean the OS is the least secure... just more idiots using it. Common sense is always the best protection. I've even trained my clueless neighbors about a year ago who I used to have to deal with on a monthly basis for crapware.. haven't been over to fix their stuff since, it's not rocket science. DConnell and The Evil Overlord 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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