Royalty Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GMv4mG I just need to make sure I can build this computer for the cheapest price. I'll be using computer for everything. Literally everything like VM's, rendering, gaming, and etc. It's not going to be an overkill. I just need some reviews. For example, should I switch out the MSI GTX for an EVGA GTX? Or should I get another power supply (for example, cheaper, better) one? Or should I get another kind of cooler? Or should I get another kind of fan? I'm expecting something along the lines of "your power supply works but is not needed an is an overkill for your whole system, you can get blahblah blah and it will still work fine, plus its cheaper" or "you don't need 2 GPU's bu you need more RAM" or something like that. Please tell me. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'd go EVGA for sure, Warranty is better. 2-Way SLI isn't going to do anything for you except in gaming, I know uou did mention that above. And I was going to saw I'd run a 1KW PS in that, but I see you already have it. Do you need 1TB SSD? Get 2x512GB's and stripe them... then get a 4TB SATA data drive. x-scratch 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'd go EVGA for sure, Warranty is better. Thanks. Are there any differences in performance or anything like that? 2-Way SLI isn't going to do anything for you except in gaming, I know uou did mention that above. And I was going to saw I'd run a 1KW PS in that, but I see you already have it. This build was edited by another user and they put 2 2-way SLI's. Why would I need 2? Would I only need it for gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royalty Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 And I was going to saw I'd run a 1KW PS in that, but I see you already have it. Do you need 1TB SSD? Get 2x512GB's and stripe them... then get a 4TB SATA data drive. Power wise, why would I need 1KW when it says its only going to be 581W? Also, why would I need to split the internal harddrives up? And why would I need a SATA data drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 Typically no, brands don't matter, only clock speeds. Yeah SLI is only if you are gaming and the game supports SLI and has a profile for it. Thanks for that. Can I replace that for a GPU that would support any and all games, doesn't matter what fame? I use ASUS LGA 2011 but they are a pain to find stable settings. Gigabyte is good but EVGA have a very good reputation these days. Like others said SLI will only help with gaming. Why don't you invest in a workstation GPU instead? Thanks, what do you mean by workstation GPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 1KW only if you were doing SLI, but without SLI do 750W... and by workstation GPU I think he means Quadro? That is totally unnecessary unless you are doing programmable GPU functions via 3dMax/CAD type of apps. Can you recommend a GPU like that for me? Okay. Here's my dilemma. I'm sick and tired of trying to run programs on my computer and then noticing the lag on it. I do a lot of stuff, I like to jump around. I go from 3D design to 4D design to game design to programming to video making and rendering to everything and anything you can think of. I basically need a computer that would be able to handle that. First off, what do you think of my processor. Is it good? Also, I want a retina like screen where's its nice and clear.what graphics card would I need and what monitor? Thanks for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I would suspect xenodrome will probably suggest a 6-8 core CPU for your hard work. Quads are for normal joes like myself. but 6 to 8 or even more cores might be what you want.. hmm. I think I've heard of 8 core CPU's before... but my mind gets bad with age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinetheo Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I would suspect xenodrome will probably suggest a 6-8 core CPU for your hard work. Quads are for normal joes like myself. but 6 to 8 or even more cores might be what you want.. hmm. I think I've heard of 8 core CPU's before... but my mind gets bad with age I have a 4 core 8 hyperthreaded i7 4770k. I can run 8 VMs easily with using 2 cores with no lag at all. 6 core may help but i/o for VMs really, help. His jobs would have to be highly parallel to truly use 8 cores 16 threads per clock cycle and if gta 4 is single threaded his performance would go down. Newest cpus are 20% slower per core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I have a 4 core 8 hyperthreaded i7 4770k. I can run 8 VMs easily with using 2 cores with no lag at all. 6 core may help but i/o for VMs really, help. His jobs would have to be highly parallel to truly use 8 cores 16 threads per clock cycle and if gta 4 is single threaded his performance would go down. Newest cpus are 20% slower per core. Thanks for reminding me Sin. I forgot I have an intel i7 4770MQ mobile with the same 8 virtual cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Just added my current setup to my signature, I have 0 slow down in anything on Windows 8.1 and can run Titanfall 60FPS at 2560x1440 with all settings maxed. The striped SSDs give me about 1GB/s transfer rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Just added my current setup to my signature, I have 0 slow down in anything on Windows 8.1 and can run Titanfall 60FPS at 2560x1440 with all settings maxed. The striped SSDs give me about 1GB/s transfer rate. How is this one? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qp38sY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebulba Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'd personally pick Noctua NH-D15 over CM 212 EVO for any i7 CPU. NH-D15 will provide additional cooling power as it's quite a bit larger. With the price of those components the price difference of these coolers is only a drop in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'd get a bigger SATA drive, or another SATA drive dedicated to VMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Do I just get extra internal hard drives for VM's or what's the main purpose of people getting so many? The main reason I'm asking is because I have a laptop that has around a 750GB hard drive. I didn't notice any difference really, a matter of fact, I wasn't even able to fill half of it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Redundancy. VMs run like rubbish when you've got other disk IO happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Redundancy. VMs run like rubbish when you've got other disk IO happening. Okay. Thanks for that. So if it wasn't for the VM's, I wouldn't need extra internet hard drives? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'd still get one - you'll find a use for it. If not use it for backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 ^ You do understand that VMs are transferred to memory, and then only writes back to disk when changes are made, yes? For simplicity, yes anything on an SSD runs faster than mechanical drives - duhhh. Good luck creating 10s of VMs (I used to have a good 50 - 60 stored away back in the day) on an SSD before you run out of disk. Mechanical would be a smart choice for this. This is why production SANs have a mixture of SSD and mechanical, magic inside the SAN can move the most used VMs to the faster tier disk, while the others sit on the cheaper disk (with more space). But whatevs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm just trying to explain how VMs still work well on mechanical disks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted March 2, 2015 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm just trying to explain how VMs still work well on mechanical disks Which I will second, given that we have our entire Hyper V infrastructure running on HDD SAN. Like you say, having lots of VM's is one thing, having them all run is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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