Thomas the Tank Engine Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 In a blog post on Monday, AMD's Raja Koduri waxed nostalgic on Mantle and how it "revolutionized the industry's thinking on low-overhead/high-throughput graphics," among other things. But at the end of what reads like a reluctant death sentence, AMD told developers that if they're interested in Mantle 1.0's functionality, they should focus their attention on DirectX 12 or GLnext. AMD never outright declares that Mantle is dead, and it even vowed to support its partners that have committed to Mantle in future projects, such as Battlefield Hardline. Likewise, AMD talked about a need for Mantle to take on new capabilities, to "evolve beyond mastery of the draw call," and that it will continue to serve the company as a graphics innovation platform available to select partners with custom needs. So technically, Mantle isn't dead, it's just largely been rendered expendable with DirectX 12 in the wings. Rather than fight it, AMD is encouraging developers to move one, save for those with very specific needs. Or at least that's how we're reading the blog post. Koduri also said that AMD no longer plans to release Mantle as a public SDK. Instead, the company is making available Mantle's 450-page programming guide and API reference, which developers will be able to download sometime later this month. It's a very odd announcement, as Koduri tells developers interested in Mantle to focus on DX12 instead, and then ends things by saying, "Join AMD this week at Game Developer Conference 2015 to see not just the future of Mantle, but the future of PC graphics as well." We'll have more details later this week as they emerge. http://www.maximumpc.com/amd_developers_focus_your_efforts_directx_12_not_mantle_2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 My friend always told me that there was much more to it than the billion dollars MS invested in developing the Xbox One GPU. Think this is what he was referring about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 DirectX 12 and Vulkan is all that matters now. Well, maybe Metal too, to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted March 3, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted March 3, 2015 Because DX12 does everything Mantel does plus other new things, I also doubt AMD wants to keep pumping money into this now. Just let MS handle it and carry the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Looks like Khronos used Mantle as the framework for Vulkan, so it lives on! Cross platform too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted March 7, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted March 7, 2015 Good. Anything to avoid going back to late 90s OpenGL/Direct3D/Glide/blah blah greenwizard88 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 mantle did its job as a proof of concept that a low level api is viable on pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 My friend always told me that there was much more to it than the billion dollars MS invested in developing the Xbox One GPU. Think this is what he was referring about. Microsoft didn't invest a billion dollars into the Xbox One GPU. Where did you even get that idea from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Looks like Khronos used Mantle as the framework for Vulkan, so it lives on! Cross platform too. What he said. The cross-vendor Khronos Group has chosen the best and brightest parts of Mantle to serve as the foundation for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Microsoft didn't invest a billion dollars into the Xbox One GPU. Where did you even get that idea from? Sorry. My bad! Did a little bit of refreshing: http://business.financialpost.com/2013/06/03/amd-microsoft-xbox-one-deal-price-tag-more-than-3-billion/?__lsa=c692-02f2 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Microsoft-Xbox-Xbox-One-Exclusive-Games-Invest-Billion,22836.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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