kiddingguy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Besides the "fun factor" is there a use for putting 16 GB in my notebook? (specs in sig). Main purpose of this notebook, besides the regular mail, word processes, internet etc, is Remote Desktop Connection, and some Adobe Photoshop Elements editing/creating stuff. I currently can do all those tasks with in some occasional cases a slight delay/hiccup in PSE (not a major thingy btw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarift Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not really unless you are doing video editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psreloaded Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not really unless doing video stuffs like editing or video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The only thing on your list that made me think "well maybe" was that you are doing Photoshop work. But then again, if you are working on files large enough to require 16gb, you'd not be using Elements, so I think 8 will suffice Elliot B. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted March 20, 2015 MVC Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'd say probably not for your question/use-case. PSE may benefit. However, RAM is cheap and I always take the approach of loading the machine to the max. natocccp and Dick Montage 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreRAM Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 bro the best way would be load you laptop and work on it as you normally would open your task manager and go to performance tab if memory is high >80% maybe consider upgrading. Aslo note to try clear your page file every now and then, it helps with memory performance. +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacoe Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 bro the best way would be load you laptop and work on it as you normally would open your task manager and go to performance tab if memory is high >80% maybe consider upgrading. Aslo note to try clear your page file every now and then, it helps with memory performance. It's rare that this happens, even while running photoshop because it pages to the disk independently of the windows swap file. I'm not sure about elements but full blown photoshop allows you to set RAM usage and I think default is something like 60% of the total amount. Anyway, unless you have at least 8 high res RAW files all open and being worked on all at once, I don't think you'd need 16gb. Another scenario for wanting more RAM with photoshop is working on files for a very long time with the history levels being turned up about the default. Obviously having photoshop save each change you make to a file 200 times is going to take a RAM hit, also files with many layers. Having said that, it should cost that much more to get 16gb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
articuno1au Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Unless you are editing photos in RAW, you will not be using that much memory. 16GB would be overkill for nearly all uses beyond VMs, heavy heavy video and photo editing and modelling uses. 8GB is fine, spend the money on a good dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacoe Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Unless you are editing photos in RAW, you will not be using that much memory. Not true, high amounts of layers and applying filters to large images, regardless of the file type. Yeah, I know I mentioned RAW but there are nuances with this kind of thing! No matter the image format, photoshop actually loads up an uncompressed version of the original file. (that means to say if you open a JPG, you're editing the lossy data but the file won't get more lossy until you save it in a lossy format again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Well, can you do enough multi tasking that'd require 16GB RAM? How long is a piece of rope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
articuno1au Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not true, high amounts of layers and applying filters to large images, regardless of the file type. Yeah, I know I mentioned RAW but there are nuances with this kind of thing! No matter the image format, photoshop actually loads up an uncompressed version of the original file. (that means to say if you open a JPG, you're editing the lossy data but the file won't get more lossy until you save it in a lossy format again) If he's asking the question, he isn't doing that kind of work. You're not wrong, it's just not likely what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I have never noticed any difference, but everyones usage could be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regert Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 @TS: What laptop (brand, model) do you have? Could you post the config. Otherwise it's actually hard to tell. It also depends on which OS you run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strollin Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 For me, the only use for that much RAM is to be able to run multiple VMs at the same time. With 16G of RAM on my desktop, I can run 3-4 VMs (depending upon how much RAM each VM is allotted) with decent performance (i7 cpu helps here too). On my laptop with 12G of RAM, I can run 2-3 VMs (also i7 cpu). Other than that, I find it difficult to max out the RAM on either system. If you are editing very large video files then you may be able to utilize that much RAM as well. However, for the uses stated by the OP, I would think the performance difference of doubling from 8 to 16G RAM would be negligible for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notchinese Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I can easily fill 16GB if I am compiling a large C++ project and have multiple visual studio instances running. But for normal tasks I doubt you would see any benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted March 22, 2015 Supervisor Share Posted March 22, 2015 Hello, Would you ever use the computer to run multiple virtual machines simultaneously? If so, having as much RAM as possible would allow you to dedicate more memory to each individual VM. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 More RAM is always good. Even if your system basically needs just 3 or 4 GB of ram, lots of the rest will be used as cache. Also there should be still the possibility to create a RAM-Disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Unless you want to run a VM on the machine, I wouldn't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'd say probably not for your question/use-case. PSE may benefit. However, RAM is cheap and I always take the approach of loading the machine to the max. bold claim. trying filling X99 platform , you would break the bank heck DDR4 32GB is expensive. PS: i know a bit of topic srry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted March 24, 2015 MVC Share Posted March 24, 2015 goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 24, 2015 MVC Share Posted March 24, 2015 bro the best way would be load you laptop and work on it as you normally would open your task manager and go to performance tab if memory is high >80% maybe consider upgrading. Aslo note to try clear your page file every now and then, it helps with memory performance. You didn't just create this account to reply did you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidiablo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Typically not a huge difference. On the other hand I upgraded to 16GB on my gaming laptop and turned off the Page File and saw a noticable boost in performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kBWarrior Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 From the rigs in your signature, I can see you are a techie. 16Gb. No questions about it. Doesn't matter if you need it, it's about having it. Do it. kiddingguy 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 My 'Used Physical Memory' is about 50-60%. Is this okay/workable? Or should I upgrade for better performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odom Member Posted March 25, 2015 Member Share Posted March 25, 2015 If you use about 50%, that means that the other 50% you are not using. ( D'oh). So, if you put in more RAM, you will not be using even more. The logic is not that the more RAM you put in the more your system will consume. If you can do everything you need to with 8GB, then you don't need more. If that usage starts creeping towards the 80% and stays there most of the time, then I would start considering upgrading the RAM. On the other hand, the price difference from 8Gb to 16GB might not be much, so you could also consider getting 16GB and be more or less "future proofed", should you be doing something later that requires more RAM. This is up to you to decide how much you would need. And the logic of get "as much as possible" or "fill it up" is simply asinine. If you search Google for performance reviews of games with lots of RAM you often even have negative effects. If later you find that you need more than 8GB, you can still add another 8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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