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Keurig is good for 1 or 2 cups at a time, really that is what it was designed for...the single coffee drinker in the house or an occasional cup in the office...not a line of 4+ people.  If you have a entire family you would go for a different coffee maker that can brew 10+ cups at a time.

 

So, a kettle and a jar of Nescaf

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Define "better". It's a very subjective thing really.  Sure, you get different -flavours-, but I would argue that doesn't necessarily make them better.

 

It DOES, however, make them a lot more expensive, a pain in the bum to make at home, and give server staff delusions of grandeur with that silly "Barrister" title... You're a minimum wage drone, like most of the rest of us. Get over yourself! :p

haha well put mate! 

 

I agree, I was just making discussion for the sake of making discussion and it worked.

On the starbucks "better", it just created attention to coffee, that is all I meant.

 

On topic, man... the best coffee traditional coffee i've tasted is

 

 

juan_valdez_coffee.jpg

 

Granted this title is up for grabs, i've tasted Costa Rican, Honduran, Brazilian and Columbian, those columbians know what they are doing... at least on a "Sell to average joe level" I know there a thousand of "roast and drink your own botique coffee shops". 

 

 

For enjoying at home, i'd say an espresso (or four) makes my day along with a capuccino late afternoon.

 

For random talk and whatnot, poured coffee is A-ok. (Bigger cup, allows for more time for conversation as well ).

 

 

Also, I don't mean to sound like an ass, but man, Northamericans (Canucks and gringos), have really, really, REALLY bad coffee. They have some decent alrounders like folgers premium (commercially available) and whatnot, but what they serve at mom and pop diners... oh boy... 

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Also, I don't mean to sound like an ass, but man, Northamericans (Canucks and gringos), have really, really, REALLY bad coffee. They have some decent alrounders like folgers premium and whatnot, but what they serve at mom and pop diners... oh boy... 

 

I'll make a note not to try it next time I'm in the States, then!

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I have the Keurig K10 in my office that I use with the adapter that lets you use your own coffee beans.

I actually picked it up on Craigslist for $30, but I'd buy the same one new if this one ever breaks.

 

The K-Cups get expensive and aren't that great for the most part, so I find it better to buy my own beans. 

I currently have some beans from a Chicago roaster that were aged in Cognac barrels.  Tasty stuff. :p

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Are we talking average joe cupa  or real men espresso coffee maker :shifty:

speaking of real men espresso coffee maker, I still have a commercial espresso machine(from my failed luxury spa business), and oh man those consumer machines make espresso that tastes like ###### compared to this beast.

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What starbucks did was create a mass conscience of there is better coffee available (at least under names), they
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I have the Keurig K10 in my office that I use with the adapter that lets you use your own coffee beans.

I actually picked it up on Craigslist for $30, but I'd buy the same one new if this one ever breaks.

 

The K-Cups get expensive and aren't that great for the most part, so I find it better to buy my own beans. 

I currently have some beans from a Chicago roaster that were aged in Cognac barrels.  Tasty stuff. :p

fwiw, the k10 is a low end 1.0 maker.  It is like saying you have something that throws a little heat through a pod to make something that resembles coffee....even my higher end 1.0 system doesn't compare to the taste that comes out of the 2.0.

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fwiw, the k10 is a low end 1.0 maker.  It is like saying you have something that throws a little heat through a pod to make something that resembles coffee....even my higher end 1.0 system doesn't compare to the taste that comes out of the 2.0.

How exactly would flavor be affected?  

 

All coffee makers have the same two basic functions:

1. Heat water

2. Dispense hot water thru the coffee grinds

 

The K10 dispenses at the same rate as the 2.0 makers, so there won't be a single difference in flavor.

It's "low tier" because it doesn't have anything digital and doesn't have a water reservoir.  I don't care for either of those things and would rather have a tiny coffee maker.

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heat (higher temp = more bean being absorbed by water)

pressure (lower the pressure allows the water to sit longer in the pod prior to coming out), the higher the pressure, the faster it comes out and the less gets absorbed.

amount of water (the first few oz are the strongest and contain most of the flavor, the last few the weakest)

 

The k2.0 has multiple heat, pressure, and oz settings.  The tossimo also has multiple heat settings, multiple pressure settings, and multiple oz settings all based on the pod bar code....the manufacturer defines the flavor with the tossimo vs the end user or keurig.  the 2.0 is attempting to mimic the tossimo, however they have alienated the majority of the kcup vendors out there being that they don't accept the older/unapproved k cups.   They should have put in an option that if it can't detect the drm kcup that it allows the user to select what they want. 

 

there is a science behind it, it isn't just dump hot water in and get coffee out.

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Tried various pod and keureg makers as well as tradition coffee makers. I've found that my handy bodum single serve french press makes the best cup for me flavor wise and overall has been cheaper in the long run. 

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 I own Tassimo and quite like it because there many cartridges available for it. My favorite was Milka hot chocolate, that is until Kraft bought them out and start putting powder **** instead of liquid milk/chocolate and now it tastes like vomit. But coffee/ tea are delicious. :)

 

Oh, so that's what happened. I thought my taste had just changed.

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My boss loves the magnet trick. He said if it was within his power, he'd give me a raise. Everyone in our building is freaking happy.

 

Thanks sc302!

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So at this point what do you guys recommend as a substitute for the keurig 2.0 that uses k-cups?

 

If I ever had a keurig, i would get the refillable cups.  Even if you had to hack the system.  Better coffee, cheaper, more options.  Also, cheaper to use a traditional coffee maker..

 

http://time.com/money/3733586/k-cups-price-cost-comparison-coffee/

 

One fairly typical analysis, comparing Caribou brand K-Cups versus ground coffee, showed that the per-cup cost was 66
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here you go, when at wall mart they are around $15 for a 44 count.  15/44=$.34 a cup. 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Donut-Shop-Blend-Coffee-Single-Serve-Cups-44-count/32250898

 

Bjs/sams/costco all have bulk boxes

 

$90 for 180 count  which is about $.50 a cup...

http://www.bjs.com/green-mountain-coffee-the-original-donut-shop-regular-extra-bold-coffee-180-k-cups.product.271177?dimId=

http://www.bjs.com/green-mountain-coffee-dark-magic-extra-bold-coffee-180-k-cups.product.271179?dimId=

 

$35 for 80 count or $.43 a cup

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/folgers-classic-kcup-80-ct-med-roast/prod14340202.ip?navAction=

 

There is plenty for around $.50 or less is all I am getting at.  Also less time spent cleaning with the k cups (even the my k cup you need to clean out) per cup of coffee brewed. 

 

my k cup

http://www.amazon.com/Keurig-Reusable-Coffee-Filter-Single/dp/B000DLB2FI

 

alternative to my k cup

http://www.amazon.com/EZ-cup-K-cup-Alternative-That-Clean/dp/B005IYFRUQ

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here you go, when at wall mart they are around $15 for a 44 count.  15/44=$.34 a cup. 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Donut-Shop-Blend-Coffee-Single-Serve-Cups-44-count/32250898

 

Bjs/sams/costco all have bulk boxes

 

$90 for 180 count  which is about $.50 a cup...

http://www.bjs.com/green-mountain-coffee-the-original-donut-shop-regular-extra-bold-coffee-180-k-cups.product.271177?dimId=

http://www.bjs.com/green-mountain-coffee-dark-magic-extra-bold-coffee-180-k-cups.product.271179?dimId=

 

$35 for 80 count or $.43 a cup

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/folgers-classic-kcup-80-ct-med-roast/prod14340202.ip?navAction=

 

There is plenty for around $.50 or less is all I am getting at.  Also less time spent cleaning with the k cups (even the my k cup you need to clean out) per cup of coffee brewed. 

 

my k cup

http://www.amazon.com/Keurig-Reusable-Coffee-Filter-Single/dp/B000DLB2FI

 

alternative to my k cup

http://www.amazon.com/EZ-cup-K-cup-Alternative-That-Clean/dp/B005IYFRUQ

 

Folgers....The Miller Light of coffees...gross...and not everyone has a Samsclub membership.  I just prefer more variety and better tasting coffee.  Which, IMO, Keurig does not offer either of those.  At least not to suite my taste.  I get better tasting coffee cheaper buying beans, grinding, and using my french press.  All Keurig is just for quick/convenience.

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That specific blend isn't that bad for Folgers.  nope not everyone has a membership to the clubs.  There are other varieties, some cost more some cost less.  You are kidding yourself if you think that there isn't a large variety with keurig....really kidding yourself...I would be willing to put a large amount of money that you haven't tried or seen half of what is available.  There is something for everyone, perhaps you haven't found it yet. 

 

Here is something you may tolerate...you may be able to pick them up on sale at ~$.50 a cup or less at your local grocery...on the 2.0 #4 6oz strong should do you good:

http://www.keurig.com/Beverages/Coffee/c/coffee101?text=&show=Page&layoutStatus=grid&categoryCode=coffee101&q=%3Arelevance&terms=%3Abrand%3ACAFE_BUSTELO&selectedFacets=%26selectedFacetsSeperator%3BbrandCAFE_BUSTELO%3ACaf%C3%A9+Bustelo%C2%AE

 

If you go to this page and hit refine products you can see all of the brands....these are just authorized brands. 

http://www.keurig.com/Beverages/Coffee/c/coffee101

 

There are also dozens of unauthorized brands like mad monkey, death wish, and hula girl

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heat (higher temp = more bean being absorbed by water)

pressure (lower the pressure allows the water to sit longer in the pod prior to coming out), the higher the pressure, the faster it comes out and the less gets absorbed.

amount of water (the first few oz are the strongest and contain most of the flavor, the last few the weakest)

 

there is a science behind it, it isn't just dump hot water in and get coffee out.

Those are fair points, but the K10 is programmed to output 192ish degrees, which is the highest end of the adjustable ones.  The point of the adjustable ones was to allow for lower temps to get dispensed since not all people want boiling hot coffee.

 

The K10 has 3 water level markers that you measure your water to.  It's manual compared to a reservoir, which isn't a big deal.

 

There are a few ways to make a "stronger" cup.  Either brew with less water, pack the filter with more coffee grinds, or hack the filter to hold the water in longer.  The K10 is pretty slow to brew as is, so I doubt the "strength" settings on the newer machines are anything remarkable that's beyond the capability of the basic ones.

 

Your points are perfectly valid if I were using the k-cups, but I don't and that's partially way.  I like a quality thick espresso blend, and the K10 makes it happen like a boss.

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I'll check what my infra red temp gun says later on the different settings (2-6), don't need quantity as that is premeasured by the device.  strong setting is slower to brew through than the normal setting...think as a pulse vs constant stream.

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2 - 180

3 -190

4:- 170

5: 170+190 (froth stuff then coffee)

6 180

 

According to the thermo gun.  Would need thermometer to get more accurate results. 

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That specific blend isn't that bad for Folgers.  nope not everyone has a membership to the clubs.  There are other varieties, some cost more some cost less.  You are kidding yourself if you think that there isn't a large variety with keurig....really kidding yourself...I would be willing to put a large amount of money that you haven't tried or seen half of what is available.  There is something for everyone, perhaps you haven't found it yet.

Never said Keurig does not have variety. Said there is more variety for what I use and the coffee tastes better coming from a french press.  More variety with other options, and cheaper.  And I am not cheap when it comes to things and care more about taste/flavor.  Heck, I would rather pay $20 for a 6 pack of beer that is good quality over a $10 24 pack of beer any day of the week.  Not about cost for me.

 

My sister has a Keurigand taste doesnt even compare to a french press. Will never buy an electric coffee maker again. Sure, french press takes longer but worth the extra time. 

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speaking of real men espresso coffee maker, I still have a commercial espresso machine(from my failed luxury spa business), and oh man those consumer machines make espresso that tastes like ###### compared to this beast.

I have a mortal Gaggia :(

 

How did Starbucks manage that? Their coffee is terrible! I'll take Wawa any day - better tasting and less expensive!

there are a million starbucks! There are more starbucks than there are toilets :laugh: so by increasing coffee availability and "viewability", as soon as other joints started popping up (because of starbucks to begin with), people were already predetermined to "give it a try". How did you find out it sucks? Say way I did... trying it!  

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