microsoft Terry Myerson has become the most powerful guy at Microsoft under Satya Nadella

[Ice_Blue]

With Microsoft's fiscal year ending, it's no surprise that CEO Satya Nadella announced sweeping changes to his executive management.

All of Nadella's top lieutenants have risen in power:

    Windows boss Terry Myerson
    Cloud boss Scott Guthrie
    Applications boss Qi Lu.

And four high-ranking executives, holdouts from former CEO Steve Ballmer's administration, are out:

Former Nokia CEO Stephen Elop, who returned to Microsoft when former CEO Ballmer led the acquisition of Nokia; he had previously worked for Microsoft, leading its massive Office business.

 

25-year Microsoft veteran Eric Rudder, who was acting as advanced strategy chief officer and was a former adviser to founder Bill Gates.

Top advertising guy Mark Penn, the former political adviser who will forever be known as the guy that created the Scroogled ad campaign that bashed Google. Nadella nixed Scroogled almost immediately after becoming CEO.

13-year veteran Kirill Tatarinov, who was running Microsoft Business Solutions, notably a product called Dynamics.
 

 

 

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[Ci7]

stephen (Trojan) elop

 

i wander where he would be next , Blackberry?

[Stoffel]

They can fall just as quickly, just look at what happened to Steven Sinofski

He had the tablet part right but not the desktop, for some, so he had to go

My personal opinion is that Terry had the desktop right, but completely f'ed up the tablet part of the OS

So will he be going too?

[Guest]

Scott Guthrie will probably be the next CEO of the company.

[Ice_Blue]

They can fall just as quickly, just look at what happened to Steven Sinofski

He had the tablet part right but not the desktop, for some, so he had to go

My personal opinion is that Terry had the desktop right, but completely f'ed up the tablet part of the OS

So will he be going too?

I still don't understand what Sinofsky got wrong about the Windows 8 Desktop, apart from the missing Start Icon on the taskbar.

 

Myerson is going in exactly the opposite direction as Sinofsky.

With Windows 10, Microsoft has retraced its steps all the way back to Windows 7.

 

Apart from the grudgingly meager concessions to touch, Tablet mode on Windows 10 is now very much like it is on Windows 7.

 

They have gone a bridge too far.

[Mr. Gibs]

I still don't understand what Sinofsky got wrong about the Windows 8 Desktop, apart from the Start Icon on the taskbar.

 

Myerson is going in exactly the opposite direction as Sinofsky.

With Windows 10, Microsoft has retraced its steps all the way back to Windows 7.

 

Apart from the grudgingly meager concessions to touch, Tablet mode on Windows 10 is now very much like it is on Windows 7.

 

They have gone a bridge too far.

It wasn't just Windows 8 and metro. It was also that Sinofsky wasn't known as a team player and didn't really give a crap about what anyone else thought. Really he didn't have many friends at MS because of his arrogance.

One of the more well known examples was during a yearly MS retreat where the senior executives and management come together to talk about their various products, their plans etc...sinofsky walked in, told everyone to go read the Windows 8 blog, and then left.

[123456789A]

It wasn't just Windows 8 and metro. It was also that Sinofsky wasn't known as a team player and didn't really give a crap about what anyone else thought. Really he didn't have many friends at MS because of his arrogance.

One of the more well known examples was during a yearly MS retreat where the senior executives and management come together to talk about their various products, their plans etc...sinofsky walked in, told everyone to go read the Windows 8 blog, and then left.

 

Sinofsky was worthless. Glad he's gone.

[Ice_Blue]

It wasn't just Windows 8 and metro. It was also that Sinofsky wasn't known as a team player and didn't really give a crap about what anyone else thought. Really he didn't have many friends at MS because of his arrogance.

One of the more well known examples was during a yearly MS retreat where the senior executives and management come together to talk about their various products, their plans etc...sinofsky walked in, told everyone to go read the Windows 8 blog, and then left.

That, I did not know.

 

No team spirit, especially in an environment like Microsoft's, will probably give you pariah status in no time.

 

He created the best touch version of Windows thus far, though. Gotta hand him that.

Sinofsky was worthless. Glad he's gone.

How was he worthless?

[123456789A]

How was he worthless?

 

He did not take any feedback into consideration. He just wanted to ship a product with his vision of what an OS should be. The market reacted accordingly.

 

Glad he's gone. No surprise he has a blog called "Learning by shipping"

[Torolol]

No surprise he has a blog called "Learning by shipping"

I must be tired, i read that as "Lemming by sheeping".

[123456789A]

I must be tired, i read that as "Lemming by sheeping".

 

Nah, that was Steve Jobs' blog.

[Ice_Blue]

He did not take any feedback into consideration. He just wanted to ship a product with his vision of what an OS should be. The market reacted accordingly.

 

Glad he's gone. No surprise he has a blog called "Learning by shipping"

I still believe his Windows Mobile vision was spot on, though. Maybe, given time, he would have integrated it better with the desktop version.

That's all moot now, though.

[Shiranui]

Well, bully for him, whoever he is.

[binaryzero]

Sinofsky was worthless. Glad he's gone.

 

He's Microsoft's version of Scott Forstall basically...

[FloatingFatMan]

He created the best touch version of Windows thus far, though. Gotta hand him that.

How was he worthless?

 

Because whilst doing that, he also shafted the far greater majority of non-touch users.

I still believe his Windows Mobile vision was spot on, though. Maybe, given time, he would have integrated it better with the desktop version.

That's all moot now, though.

 

His Windows Mobile vision was spot on, for mobile devices.  Such a shame he completely forgot non-mobile users were the far greater majority.

[Ice_Blue]

Because whilst doing that, he also shafted the far greater majority of non-touch users.

 

His Windows Mobile vision was spot on, for mobile devices.  Such a shame he completely forgot non-mobile users were the far greater majority.

How, exactly? Except for the Charms bar and the hot corners, the desktop was practically unchanged from Windows 7.

[FloatingFatMan]

How, exactly? Except for the Charms bar and the hot corners, the desktop was practically unchanged from Windows 7.

 

Apart from the missing Start menu (the Start screen was a ######-poor alternative), forcing many people to resort to 3rd party apps to get back to something that fitted their workflow rather than Sinofsky's "vision".

 

Vision my butt.  Sinofsky is clearly as blind as a bat when it comes to desktops.  The board at MS seemed to agree too, which is why he was fired.

[SoCalRox]

As a charter member of the "Windows 8 Sucks" club, I will readily admit on a tablet it worked quite nicely. The problem was that it was irritating to use on the desktop, with too much moved or changed to be comfortable with. I won't get into the hideous "flat" design, because that is really a matter of taste, not functionality. There WERE a number of things I liked about 8.x, but the pain of use just was too great and was quite consuming.

 

Believe it or not, I do think they rolled it back TOO far on Win10. I didn't like the lack of options so that I could opt to have the start menu and could opt to boot to desktop, etc., on Windows 8.x for me, so why would I want to take those same options for those who DO want to choose the Start Menu instead? Why shouldn't the ones who love 8.x be free to set it up to work THAT way as well?

 

If Win 8 had been more like Win 10, I may have stayed there, but Win 8 was so uncomfortable I went to Macs and didn't return. I do still have Windows machines, though, and use it at work. Being an IT guy means I need to stay current with Windows. But long term, they lost me with Win 8. Any machines which I don't or can't (because of licensing) upgrade to Win 10 will become Linux machines, not from fondness for Linux, but just to have something "new" to play with.

 

But for the Windows 8 fans, I do feel your pain and understand your disappointment. I do not wish them to same kind of discomfort I experienced.