Arachno 1D Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 SAN FRANCISCO natocccp 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I could see reconfiguring California into 3-4 states, but not 6. It really has turned into a bureaucratic nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 All united under the banner of the New California Republic dragontology 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachno 1D Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 All united under the banner of the New California Republic The Replublic of Arnaldo TPreston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What a silly idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pack34 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What a silly idea... Why not? There's almost 40 million people living in California. England has 53 million people and is split into 9 regions. Splitting California into four to six states should make things easier to run and also be able to better represent themselves in our national legislature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Why not? There's almost 40 million people living in California. England has 53 million people and is split into 9 regions. Splitting California into four to six states should make things easier to run and also be able to better represent themselves in our national legislature. Those 9 regions existed long before England existed. As for silly, well, for one, it's going to increase the number of states from 50 to 56, which probably needs a lot more than just California's permission, and two, no one's going to want LA/Hollyweird in their state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph3100 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 As for silly, well, for one, it's going to increase the number of states from 50 to 56, which probably needs a lot more than just California's permission, and two, no one's going to want LA/Hollyweird in their state! Are you kidding me? They just roped all the hippies into a single area so they can run, wild and free Stokkolm 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamsebjørn Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Smaller regions are often easier to govern. I think this is a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachno 1D Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think the rich Californians want to dump the rest of the state gameboy1977, MDboyz, torrentthief and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The pity thing is that the people from my hometown want to separate from the rest of California because California is run by a bunch of "tax and spend liberals". They forgot to mention that the wealthy parts of the state are doing the taxing while they (the other parts) are doing the spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-T- Member Posted July 23, 2015 Member Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'd be wary of trusting any idea put forward by a venture capitalist Mockingbird 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 A plan backed by venture capitalist Tim Draper That should be all you need to know to realise that this is a bad idea. Why not? There's almost 40 million people living in California. England has 53 million people and is split into 9 regions. Splitting California into four to six states should make things easier to run and also be able to better represent themselves in our national legislature. Based on that logic Texas should be split into four states; New York and Florida into three states; Illinois, Pennsylvania and Ohio into two, etc. Suddenly you end up with about 65 states with a substantially different political make-up. Unless you also merge the states with a very low population, as about thirty states are below the population count proposed for the California Six. This isn't about improving things for the people, it's about conservatives trying to increase their influence. The massive corporations located in these new states would have a disproportionate influence, meaning they'd inevitably push through low tax rates and crush worker rights. This is just more gerrymandering. SecretAgentMan, +E.Worm Jimmy and DeusProto 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liana Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 On the surface it sounds like a good idea, but this also is a very complex issue and not one that I would feel comfortable voting on. I'm not at all convinced that the average voter is going to have the knowledge required to make a sound and reasonable decision about this. This needs to be reviewed by a whole range of experts and professionals in government, economy, law, etc. If this isn't done just right it could very well ruin California (a state that already has some serious financial issues). theyarecomingforyou 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Those 9 regions existed long before England existed. As for silly, well, for one, it's going to increase the number of states from 50 to 56, which probably needs a lot more than just California's permission, and two, no one's going to want LA/Hollyweird in their state! Actually, it'd increase it to 55 (55 - 1 (Current California) + 6 (new states)) = 55. The real issue is funding local services. The northern parts of California get a lot of their public service funding from the southern half of the state's tax income, etc. By severing the states into these subdivisions what we'd end up with is states that would have massive shrinkage in their local budgets. If they can survive that issue, I think it's not a bad idea. California is a little too concentrated when it comes to political matters, too many people being represented in one state that not everyone really gets spoken for. Not to mention the proposition system is fairly rigged as it is. So the question is what wins out? Representation or budget? If these local regions choose to sever their lifeline from the rest of the state then I think that's their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 There have been a few different motions here in Michigan about separating the Upper and Lower Peninsulas into their own individual States in the past, and more recently breaking off Detroit into its' own District like Washington D.C. is, but not much ever got going on those movements. The California issue, however, has some real traction behind it. That one could actually happen. It'll be interesting to see what comes of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 They should, there are areas outside of Hollywood that have completely different political views and financial situations. gameboy1977 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph3100 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 This isn't about improving things for the people, it's about conservatives trying to increase their influence. The massive corporations located in these new states would have a disproportionate influence, meaning they'd inevitably push through low tax rates and crush worker rights. This is just more gerrymandering. Of course it is about increasing influence. The difference is that conservatives are increasing influence through adapting representation, where liberals increase representation through amnesty and giving poor people free stuff to keep them poor. If changing the state to represent conservatives more is gerrymandering, then keeping it as is must be gerrymandering as well. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 We bet that Los Angeles, West California would become capital state when California becomes six states, do you think so too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 We bet that Los Angeles, West California would become capital state when California becomes six states, do you think so too? When?! I think you mean IF.. A really really really big IF. And I can't see the rest of California going for that. LA is full of crazy people. gameboy1977 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 When?! I think you mean IF.. A really really really big IF. And I can't see the rest of California going for that. LA is full of crazy people. yes, that is true..... LA is full of crazy people there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravensky Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Anything to no have Jerry Rig'it Brown as my governor...bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spenser.d Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 isn't that's why counties exist. Yep. There's not an actual good reason for this that couldn't just apply to any state. CA isn't special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc50446 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 That's a lot of stars to put on your flag.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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