DocM Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Right place, right time. A TV report says a British man living in France was also in on the takedown. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11817490/Gunman-injures-three-after-firing-Kalashnikov-on-train-in-France-latest.html US marines prevent French train massacreUnarmed US marines foil attack by Moroccan gunman with Kalashnikov and handgun on train Three Americans have been hailed as heroes by President Barack Obama for tackling and disarming a gunman they happened to encounter on a high-speed Amsterdam-Paris train. French authorities said that three people were injured. Two were injured seriously - one with a gunshot wound, the other a knife wound. The gunman wounded two people before he was subdued. He has been arrested in Arras, northern France, where the train was diverting through. The attack took place at 1545 GMT yesterday while the train was passing through Belgium. Two of the Americans were off-duty US military personnel, and the three men heard the man loading a weapon in the toilet cubicle, confronting him when he came out. The suspect is a 26-year-old Moroccan, according to Sliman Hamzi, according to an official with the Alliance police union. He is said to have been carrying a Kalashnikov, a knife, an automatic pistol and cartridges. French media said the man was known to authorities, and he had so far refused to talk to police.> Jim K 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Reports say they took the gun from him and beat him unconscious with it. Pretty bad ass i'd say. Judging by the comments, it looks like no one cares unless lives were lost. Edited August 23, 2015 by KingCracker President Devil 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's being reported that one of the heroes was in the National Guard and the other was in the Marines. The attacker also used a knife to seriously injure one the heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Supposedly no a single one was a marine, but there was one airforce, a civilian and an old guy, and someone else I don't remember what he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 23, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2015 - A US National Guardsman- An American Civilian going to school at California State University- A British civilian living in France- A US Air Force Airman First Class (would love to see his next EPR) Massive bucket of win for these four heros. Because of their quick actions a terrorist attack was prevented and many innocent people are still with their families. Top Qat 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Supposedly no a single one was a marine, but there was one airforce, a civilian and an old guy, and someone else I don't remember what he was. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 23, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2015 Source? Here you go! Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Whatever service they were in, they and 2 alert civilians delivered major dose of whupass when it was severely needed. The spirit of UA Flight 93 lives on.... Ph1b3r0pt1c and Jim K 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 24, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2015 The four have received France's highest honor, Legion of Honor. There is also a fifth, a French national who hasn't gone public. "By their courage, they saved lives," President Francois Hollande said. "They gave us an example of what is possible to do in these kinds of situations." The four stopped a potential massacre Friday aboard the high-speed train headed from Amsterdam to Paris. "Three Americans and one Englishman ... you risked your lives to defend an ideal, the ideal of liberty and freedom," Hollande said. Another passenger -- a French national who has not gone public -- also confronted the gunman, and will be honored at a later date. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/24/europe/france-train-shooting/index.html DocM 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Damned straight! 100% heroes. All 3 nations should be very proud of what their sons have done DConnell and Top Qat 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 We are. I'm just glad they were able to stop the gunman before he managed to kill anyone. Awesome job, lads. DocM, Top Qat and DConnell 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamera Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Fortunately, a lot of good circumstances: - The US guys should have taken an other train but changed their mind.- Due to bad wifi reception in the train, they decided to change wagon.- The gunman had an issue with its firearm. What they have done, few people would have done this.Humble men, they deserve all the honours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Fortunately, a lot of good circumstances: - The US guys should have taken an other train but changed their mind.- Due to bad wifi reception in the train, they decided to change wagon.- The gunman had an issue with its firearm. What they have done, few people would have done this.Humble men, they deserve all the honours. wow sometimes unexplainable things seem to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V9s Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 How the hell did the Moroccan guy get on the train with a frikken Kalashnikov? Isn't the security beefed up on all transportation networks across Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 How the hell did the Moroccan guy get on the train with a frikken Kalashnikov? Isn't the security beefed up on all transportation networks across Europe? Train stations don't have metal detectors or body scanners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Whatever service they were in, they and 2 alert civilians delivered major dose of whupass when it was severely needed. The spirit of UA Flight 93 lives on.... Yeah I don't care if it was 4 mimes that saved the day, as long as that Islamist gets put away for a very long time. Another question - why are countries allowing these extremists to roam free? He was already on file, so it's not like they didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V9s Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yeah I don't care if it was 4 mimes that saved the day, as long as that Islamist gets put away for a very long time. Another question - why are countries allowing these extremists to roam free? He was already on file, so it's not like they didn't know. They want the bigwigs...not the foot soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Another question - why are countries allowing these extremists to roam free? He was already on file, so it's not like they didn't know. How do you propose we do that? He hadn't broken any laws up to the point he decided to become a killer. Do you want us to lock up anyone who doesn't believe in the right god, or come from the right country, or have the right colour skin? That's a dangerous road to walk down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Open Borders policies combined with loosy-goosey refugee policies and a PC need not to seem "prejudicial." Myself, at the first sign of such leanings they'd get a one-way ticket home and a warning never to come back - or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Open border policies are fine most of the time. Alas, the world has changed around us and it's become rather less than safe to allow it... We can thank George & Tony for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Unfortunately 'most of the time' isn't most of the time. There's always some group or another which tries to take advantage of it for nefarious purposes; terrorists, smugglers etc. What differs is if the recipient nations realise they're being had or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Unfortunately 'most of the time' isn't most of the time. There's always some group or another which tries to take advantage of it for nefarious purposes; terrorists, smugglers etc. What differs is if the recipient nations realise they're being had or not. Do you know what has prevented far more terrorist attack sthan any closed borders, body scanning, and security checkpoints and idiotic regulations of what to bring on a plane, and locking people up on guantanamo? All the things that have had ZERO effect on terrorist attacks but lots of impact on regular people ? Actualy intelligence. to this day, terrorist attacks that are stopped are because of intelligence, NOT all these other big brother and nationalistic intrusions on peoples lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted August 24, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 24, 2015 How do you propose we do that? He hadn't broken any laws up to the point he decided to become a killer. Do you want us to lock up anyone who doesn't believe in the right god, or come from the right country, or have the right colour skin? That's a dangerous road to walk down. Criminal profiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Criminal profiling. He wasn't a criminal until he planned his crime. This isn't the USA you know. We don't judge people to be guilty until proven innocent around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted August 24, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 24, 2015 He wasn't a criminal until he planned his crime. This isn't the USA you know. We don't judge people to be guilty until proven innocent around here. Up to you. I would prefer profiling over dead bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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