techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 minute ago, jjkusaf said: Which was Iranian. Yep...very credible also. It is true! It all is because one guy said something, a russian sponsored news site reported it, and a news site from Iran which the US has been enemies for decades and only recently agreed of a few issues. Jim K 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ctebah said: Sputnik quoted another article from another news agency. If you read before commenting you would realize this. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy. You sure come up with a lot of excuses when it comes to defending U.S. policies. Now that is what I call funny. What is hilarious here is how many comments you make concerning other countries, or comments made, and how they are not true due to lack of proof, and then you turn around here and do the same thing. Edited December 27, 2015 by techbeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, techbeck said: What is hilarious here is how many comments you make concerning other countries and lack of proof, and then you turn around here and do the same thing. This sentence makes no sense. This is just classic denial based on where the news comes from, the same thing U.S. does every time it's accused of something. People denied the Afghan hospital bombing based on the source, and the same militia reporting on this reported about 30+ Iraqi soldiers being bombed by U.S. planes. Both turned out to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, ctebah said: This sentence makes no sense. This is just classic denial based on where the news comes from, the same thing U.S. does every time it's accused of something. People denied the Afghan hospital bombing based on the source, and the same militia reporting on this reported about 30+ Iraqi soldiers being bombed by U.S. planes. Both turned out to be true. I edited my comment. But my point was, you dismiss a lot of things due to lack of proof but then turn around and post a "news" story lacking any proof what so ever and claim it is true. And those others stories that turned out to be true, there was something called evidence that backed it up. And this article is just flame bait until/if evidence is proven. I am sure glad most rest of the world does not believe something just of hearsay, or because a certain news agency/group has been right before. There is a reason why evidence is needed to condemn someone for their actions. Jim K and +Raze 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted December 27, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, ctebah said: This sentence makes no sense. This is just classic denial based on where the news comes from, the same thing U.S. does every time it's accused of something. People denied the Afghan hospital bombing based on the source, and the same militia reporting on this reported about 30+ Iraqi soldiers being bombed by U.S. planes. Both turned out to be true. That's great, but it doesn't make this story true because of the previous articles. Until other news organizations/officials corroborate this, it is simply an unsubstantiated report. Jim K 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 7 minutes ago, ctebah said: This sentence makes no sense. This is just classic denial based on where the news comes from, the same thing U.S. does every time it's accused of something. People denied the Afghan hospital bombing based on the source, and the same militia reporting on this reported about 30+ Iraqi soldiers being bombed by U.S. planes. Both turned out to be true. Makes total sense, all you do is post anti American nonsense from less than reputable sites that make CNN and Fox look unbiased, but when it comes to something you agree on you have qualms dismissing the source as propaganda, yey uour two "sources" are much worse than all the sites you dismiss as propaganda combined Jim K 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 5 minutes ago, techbeck said: I edited my comment. But my point was, you dismiss a lot of things due to lack of proof but then turn around and post a "news" story lacking any proof what so ever and claim it is true. And those others stories that turned out to be true, there was something called evidence that backed it up. And this article is just flame bait until/if evidence is proven. I am sure glad most rest of the world does not believe something just of hearsay, or because a certain news agency/group has been right before. There is a reason why evidence is needed to condemn someone for their actions. Can you backup that point please? A few days ago you posted an article about Russian "supposed" bombing of civilians, and my reply was that "It wasn't supposed, it was definitely Russian." In this long line of denial you try and accuse me of defending Russia when in fact I do the contrary and have no problem agreeing that the Russians are as guilty as anyone else. PS: most of the world knows U.S. created ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, Anibal P said: Makes total sense, all you do is post anti American nonsense from less than reputable sites that make CNN and Fox look unbiased, but when it comes to something you agree on you have qualms dismissing the source as propaganda, yey uour two "sources" are much worse than all the sites you dismiss as propaganda combined So, just like I asked tech, can you backup your claim that I "dismiss" other sources? And he was so in hurry to type out some denial that his initial sentience made absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, ctebah said: So, just like I asked tech, can you backup your claim that I "dismiss" other sources? And he was so in hurry to type out some denial that his initial sentience made absolutely no sense. It's called your post history, want a link to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ctebah said: Can you backup that point please? A few days ago you posted an article about Russian "supposed" bombing of civilians, and my reply was that "It wasn't supposed, it was definitely Russian." In this long line of denial you try and accuse me of defending Russia when in fact I do the contrary and have no problem agreeing that the Russians are as guilty as anyone else. PS: most of the world knows U.S. created ISIS. I mentioned George Haswani, you said as usual US had no proof of the accusations. I can find more issues, but frankly this flame bait posting is not worth my time and effort to do so. And this is not about how ISIS was created. Didnt you just accuse me of deflection the discussion...or should I go before you start commenting on my lack of grammar/education to try and prove your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, Anibal P said: It's called your post history, want a link to it? Perfect, so you and Tech shouldn't have a problem finding posts to backup your claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 minute ago, ctebah said: Perfect, so you and Tech shouldn't have a problem finding posts to backup your claims. Since 2 people here made the same comment and didnt originally provide any proof (I did tho), that makes it 100 percent true! Just like the OP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 4 minutes ago, techbeck said: I mentioned George Haswani, you said as usual US had no proof of the accusations. I can find more issues, but frankly this flame bait posting is not worth my time and effort to do so. And this is not about how ISIS was created. Didnt you just accuse me of deflection the discussion...or should I go before you start commenting on my lack of grammar/education to try and prove your point. To which I replied that Assad is definitely buying oil from ISIS, just not as much as Turkey. I also mentioned where Assad and Rebels/ISIS share the electricity from the Aleppo power station. A direct reply isn't a deflection. One has only to look at your replies to see classic examples of deflection. First it was the source, then it was "other countries are doing it", what's next? But please, continue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ctebah said: To which I replied that Assad is definitely buying oil from ISIS, just not as much as Turkey. I also mentioned where Assad and Rebels/ISIS share the electricity from the Aleppo power station. But please, continue.... You may have made a comment about Assad buying oil from ISIS, but it was not in that tread. You also made a comment in the same thread about how no one but Russia has offered concrete proof of where ISIS oil is going. But whatever, continue your anti US campaign. Quite amusing. And that was not your reply when I mentioned George Haswani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ctebah said: A direct reply isn't a deflection. One has only to look at your replies to see classic examples of deflection. First it was the source, then it was "other countries are doing it", what's next? Just pointing out that what you are complaining that one group is doing, most, if not all, other groups do the same thing. To complain about one and support the other is being hypocritical. I just realize that every country does the same/similar crap and it comes as no surprise to me and I dont use it to further my anti group agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, techbeck said: You may have made a comment about Assad buying oil from ISIS, but it was not in that tread. You also made a comment in the same thread about how no one but Russia has offered concrete proof of where ISIS oil is going. But whatever, continue your anti US campaign. Quite amusing. Exactly, that was a fact. The U.S. offered no proof and denied it until the amount of evidence was overwhelming. Then they "politely asked" Turkey to try and close it's borders. A post from FunkyMike nails it: Quote Just a few weeks ago the US was in denial that the Oil is going into Turkey. Then Russia dumped pictures. The US administration denied it again saying that the pictures are static and do not show the trucks going over the border. (This is no joke) Then Russia dumped videos of moving trucks. Still the US denied it saying that it is just a few trucks worth and that they do not have any intelligence of oil movement. Then Russia dumped videos of their drones filming US drones that are filming the Syrian Turkey border + oil movement. This was exactly what happened before the U.S. came out and said that "Assad is buying oil (which no one denied) and that "some of it is going to Turkey". Facts on the ground showed thousands, if not tens of thousands, of oil trucks crossing into Turkey every single day. When asked why they don't bomb ISIS oil installations in the Eastern Syria, a U.S army official said it was due to "environmental concerns" (definitely not a joke) The only person looking pathetic is the one denying all the facts on the ground. But go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ctebah said: Exactly, that was a fact. The U.S. offered no proof and denied it until the amount of evidence was overwhelming. Then they "politely asked" Turkey to try and close it's borders. A post from FunkyMike nails it: Fact, that the US did not have concrete proof. Sure, but the same goes for the article you posted. You posted a crap article with no evidence and took it as proof enough to condemn the US. And that was my point, you accuse others over lack of proof but deny accusations towards others due to lack of proof. This has nothing to do with what FunkyMike said as this is what YOU do. And you were even wrong on your reply when I mentioned George Haswani. And my point was not concerning the buying ISIS oil, it was how you, again, take no evidence and condemn someone and then do the oppoisite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 5 minutes ago, ctebah said: The only person looking pathetic is the one denying all the facts on the ground. But go on... Wow, name calling now huh...ok then. adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 4 minutes ago, techbeck said: Fact, that the US did not have concrete proof. U.S. and it's allies bombed ISIS for a year before Russia stepped in and had no proof of oil routes to Turkey. Russia comes in and immediately embarrasses the West, NATO and Turkey over the oil smuggling routes. Yeah, it's very "believable" that the U.S. didn't have proof.... Quote You posted a crap article with no evidence and took it as proof enough to condemn the US. And that was my point, you accuse others over lack of proof but deny accusations towards others due to lack of proof. This has nothing to do with what FunkyMike said as this is what YOU do. You're all over the place man. Doing a lot of defending for something you believe is a conspiracy. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ctebah said: U.S. and it's allies bombed ISIS for a year before Russia stepped in and had no proof of oil routes to Turkey. Russia comes in and immediately embarrasses the West, NATO and Turkey over the oil smuggling routes. Yeah, it's very "believable" that the U.S. didn't have proof.... You're all over the place man. Doing a lot of defending for something you believe is a conspiracy. Hilarious. You like to disagree with one side due to lack of proof while agreeing with another for the same thing. And evidently, I am not the only one who thinks the OP article is a load of crap. What is funny is how you are taking something 1 person said as fact. I have some swamp land to sell in AZ...want to buy it? Anibal P 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, techbeck said: You like to disagree with one side due to lack of proof while agreeing with another for the same thing. What is funny is how you are taking something 1 person said as fact. I have some swamp land to sell in AZ...want to buy it? Yes, I tend to disagree with the side that helped created ISIS and that sponsors terrorists and agree with the side that is bombing them. Remember, we heard almost nothing about the ISIS oil routes until Russians exposed it. And like I mentioned before, do some research on the guy that made this accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ctebah said: Yes, I tend to disagree with the side that helped created ISIS and that sponsors terrorists and agree with the side that is bombing them. Remember, we heard almost nothing about the ISIS oil routes until Russians exposed it. And like I mentioned before, do some research on the guy that made this accusation. Yup, according to you the Russians are saints. Any accusations currently against Russia are crap since it is from western media or the US said it Something you may need for the new year.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vladimir-putin-calendar-2016_567e5d2fe4b0b958f6597836 US is not perfect, far from it. And I recognize the issue where they screw up. But I am not going to take one person's word for anything without proof. If there is proof of the article in the OP, hard proof, I would be one of the first to condemn the US for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, techbeck said: Yup, according to you the Russians are saints. Any accusations currently against Russia are crap since it is from western media or the US said it Something you may need for the new year.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vladimir-putin-calendar-2016_567e5d2fe4b0b958f6597836 Man, you must have the memory of a goldfish. Quote A few days ago you posted an article about Russian "supposed" bombing of civilians, and my reply was that "It wasn't supposed, it was definitely Russian." In this long line of denial you try and accuse me of defending Russia when in fact I do the contrary and have no problem agreeing that the Russians are as guilty as anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ctebah said: Man, you must have the memory of a goldfish. Congratulations, you have an instance where you accused Russia. Want a cookie? Your praise of Russia and believing what they say far negates anything negative you say about them. Little tip, Russia is as full of crap as the US is. They lie/say things to make themselves appear like the good guys. And really, until I see hard proof, I dont believe any one of them. And memory of a goldfish...funny, considering you got the reply yo made to me concerning Asaad buying ISIS oil wrong and could not understand why I brought up Russia in a post where the OP source links to Russian run news outlet. But ok then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 minute ago, techbeck said: Congratulations, you have an instance where you accused Russia. Want a cookie? 1 instance lol. It's like an Apple zealot defending one thing MS does and trying to call themselves unbiased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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