simonlang Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 how could i have missed this? it got released a month ago! no race fans here? gave it a quick try and it works perfectly. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplezz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 On 09/01/2016 at 11:28 AM, Simon Lang 9047 said: how could i have missed this? it got released a month ago! no race fans here? gave it a quick try and it works perfectly. AAA and top titles are coming thick and fast now. SteamOS is a game changer for Linux Unobscured Vision, simonlang and Sikh 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just now, simplezz said: AAA and top titles are coming thick and fast now. SteamOS is a game changer for Linux it really is! sure you need proper hardware for AAA titles, however when running and not knowing no one could tell you if it's windows or linux. it's impressive. Sikh, Unobscured Vision and simplezz 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, simplezz said: AAA and top titles are coming thick and fast now. SteamOS is a game changer for Linux thick... fast... well everything is relative and depend on what angle you view it from. from the position of nothing, a trickle is thick and heavy. But it seems a bit like laying it on very thick Mando, adrynalyne, tsupersonic and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplezz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 1 minute ago, HawkMan said: thick... fast... well everything is relative and depend on what angle you view it from. from the position of nothing, a trickle is thick and heavy. But it seems a bit like laying it on very thick Well haters gonna hate I suppose. From what I can see most new steam titles are coming out with GNU/Linux support. That's a game changer for Linux on the desktop. SteamOS is a wake up call for OEM's that shows GNU/Linux is a serious alternative to Windows. Noir Angel, Sikh, Unobscured Vision and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, simplezz said: Well haters gonna hate I suppose. From what I can see most new steam titles are coming out with GNU/Linux support. That's a game changer for Linux on the desktop. SteamOS is a wake up call for OEM's that shows GNU/Linux is a serious alternative to Windows. Firstly I don't hate, I don't care if games come out on linux or not. I don't see that it has an economic benefit for the vast majority of developers and the returns will be smaller than the investment. However that bolded part if pure fantasy, and either you're living very sheltered and are only looking at steam with the "available on linux" filter on, or your purposely lying for some reason. because only a small fraction of new steam titles are coming on linux. Especially when you, as you did, qualify it with AAA titles. Tomb Raider? RB6 Siege? The Division? Just Cause 3? Fallout 4? XCom2? Just a handful of new and upcoming games on steam. all pretty major AAA titles that have/are or will be selling big. and... finding games you can play on steam for linux is great for you, but trying to pretend it's something it isn't to sell it and steamOS/Steam machines to others is doing them a great disservice and is quite disloyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Lots of hate for such a nice thing for Linux simplezz, Sikh, Unobscured Vision and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) No kidding, my goodness. - If you need a disaster recovery solution and need it "free, fast, and immediately", Linux has your back. - If you need something to de-crapify your Windows machine(s) offline, Linux has you covered too. - If you want to play some older games that no longer work on Windows (some of which are now free and open-source!), they're generally on Linux now. - Some games, like Kerbal Space Program, will only work as intended on Linux. The Windows version is crippled due to .Net being as it is. - Games are increasingly being developed with Linux in mind. - Android is Linux, at its' core. Not to come off as a zealot or anything, but give something a try before you just knock it. You might end up liking it. simplezz and Sikh 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 All of that kinda misses the point. though, linux is good for it's purpose, but again, making it out s if linux is a great gaming OS that also gets nearly all the new AAA games is misleading and disloyal and a straight out lie. you're wrong or half wrong on several of your other points as well, but all of them are off topic anyway so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, HawkMan said: All of that kinda misses the point. though, linux is good for it's purpose, but again, making it out s if linux is a great gaming OS that also gets nearly all the new AAA games is misleading and disloyal and a straight out lie. you're wrong or half wrong on several of your other points as well, but all of them are off topic anyway so. still you got to see the context. not so long ago, basically the only games you could play on linux were simple card games and that super-tux cart racing game. and then came steam which is an advantage not only for the users but developers as well. if a game is compatible with win, linux and mac os, you can just download and install over steam no matter what os you are using. and the point of grid autosport proves, that linux is just as good for gaming as windows is. really there is no difference as the hardware works the same, some even claim (i have not compared that) that games on linux would run a bit faster. whats still lacking a bit is the amount of games you can chose from. in that regard windows is leading, however the lead is shrinking. so hardware-wise: linux is as a great gaming os as windows (maybe even better) if you want to have a big variety of games to chose from, windows is on top but not as much as it used to be. let's check again next year. simplezz 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Simon Lang 9047 said: still you got to see the context. not so long ago, basically the only games you could play on linux were simple card games and that super-tux cart racing game. and then came steam which is an advantage not only for the users but developers as well. if a game is compatible with win, linux and mac os, you can just download and install over steam no matter what os you are using. and the point of grid autosport proves, that linux is just as good for gaming as windows is. really there is no difference as the hardware works the same, some even claim (i have not compared that) that games on linux would run a bit faster. whats still lacking a bit is the amount of games you can chose from. in that regard windows is leading, however the lead is shrinking. so hardware-wise: linux is as a great gaming os as windows (maybe even better) if you want to have a big variety of games to chose from, windows is on top but not as much as it used to be. let's check again next year. I dunno. the majority of linux games on steam is "indie" games, and indie games where on linux since "indie" games started to be a thing. with the whole pay what you want indie packs and before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Quote so hardware-wise: linux is as a great gaming os as windows (maybe even better) and yeah, no, absolutely no. still sufferes from low performance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) good to see some new(ish) titles arrive. Its a decent enough arcade racer tbh probably best on the series. Now only if linux community or steam could get a wrapper for D3D with Ms (and optimise performance), perhaps steamOS/steam on Linux could become a viable alternative. Its closer but not there yet, a simple comparison on titles available shows that. 71 pages of linux/steamOS titles, 109 pages for Mac and 295 for Windows. The number of Mac pages surprised me tbh. It shows potential in Linux. Edited January 11, 2016 by Mando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, Mando said: good to see some new(ish) titles arrive. Its a decent enough arcade racer tbh probably best on the series. Now only if linux community or steam could get a wrapper for D3D with Ms (and optimise performance), perhaps steamOS/steam on Linux could become a viable alternative. Its closer but not there yet It's certainly improved but yea, it's got a long way to go. Two huge issues still for me, first is "lazy ports" instead of an actual native binary.. lots of complaints on various Linux forums about these due to significantly reduced performance, etc, a number of developers aren't putting any serious time or money into these ports, which is just going to hurt in the long run. Then there's the old driver issues which is still a big problem.. at the moment if you're using an AMD based GPU you'll be especially frustrated, the developers of some of these newer ports flat out tell you that the game won't even run. It's nice to see a few developers starting to take Linux gaming seriously but between these big problems and SteamOS's failure to make any significant impact, its got quite a while to go before it'll be a serious contender to challenge WIndows for gaming.. they need a big title that plays just as well as the WIndows version available at the same time, not 3 years later, that'll probably help quite a bit. Not saying it's all bad, there are some good ones out there, playing a few myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, HawkMan said: still sufferes from low performance as well. pile of crap. Sikh 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Simon Lang 9047 said: pile of crap. Benn reported to be true several times. We can believe you, or everyone else. https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+slower+in+games&oq=linux+slower+in+games&aqs=chrome..69i57.4342j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8#q=steamos+slower+in+games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_vader Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 29 minutes ago, Simon Lang 9047 said: pile of crap. Linux is nowhere near windows performance in games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 aahhhh guys with small ###### counting fps .... like always.... both look absolutely fluent to me simplezz 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_vader Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes, I am counting FPS, why whould I pay a fortune for a GFX to criple it with linux? I do like linux as a desktop os, but the fact remains that at this time, it is a no go for someone who wants the best from his PC in terms of gaming performance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Simon Lang 9047 said: aahhhh guys with small ###### counting fps .... like always.... both look absolutely fluent to me Using insults just shows your own insecurities. You were proven wrong, and this is your defense mechanism. Sad. Circaflex, MorganX and ZakO 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, adrynalyne said: Using insults just shows your own insecurities. You were proven wrong, and this is your defense mechanism. nope. i could not care less. i just downloaded grid autosport a few days ago and it runs fine on my hardware/software combo. simplezz 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simon Lang 9047 said: nope. i could not care less. i just downloaded grid autosport a few days ago and it runs fine on my hardware/software combo. Immaturity then. Either way, hurling insults because you don't agree with something is not the way to go. Circaflex 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Simon Lang 9047 said: aahhhh guys with small ###### counting fps .... like always.... both look absolutely fluent to me ... So you went from "linux having lower performance is BS" to "Well I don't care it runs well enough for me"... So sure, you have a game that runs above 30 in linux and close to 60 in windows. it's smooth enough for you, but what about the game that run 30 in windows then and then runs well below noticeable frame chopping on linux. Then again, the fact you went from saying there's no difference to saying that up to an over 50% performance difference doesn't matter shows you're not going to give a genuine answer. MorganX and adrynalyne 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted January 11, 2016 Supervisor Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm not sure what any of the above posts have to do with this game in particular. Can you take the Linux vs. <insert competition here> somewhere else, please? Looks like a decent game to me. Although after GT3 I've always found myself getting a bit tired of racing games after a few hours. I might pick them up now and again to get some road rage out, but I've generally found the progression model for these games to be underwhelming, in the sense that half the time getting a new car feels more like getting a new skin for a car I already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, darth_vader said: Linux is nowhere near windows performance in games... 7 minutes ago, Nick H. said: I'm not sure what any of the above posts have to do with this game in particular. Can you take the Linux vs. <insert competition here> somewhere else, please? Looks like a decent game to me. Although after GT3 I've always found myself getting a bit tired of racing games after a few hours. I might pick them up now and again to get some road rage out, but I've generally found the progression model for these games to be underwhelming, in the sense that half the time getting a new car feels more like getting a new skin for a car I already have. Relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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