U of Oregon Debates Removing MLK Quote For Not Being Inclusive Enough

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U of Oregon Debates Removing MLK Quote For Not Being Inclusive Enough
by Alex Griswold | 2:20 pm, January 26th, 2016

 

Student leaders at the University of Oregon debated removing a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. from its student center, arguing that the quote was not inclusive enough for modern understandings of diversity.
Oregon’s Erb Memorial Union, which is currently under renovation, had the following famous King quote on the wall: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream…”
But as renovation continues, the Oregon Student Union seriously considered replacing that quote. “The quote is not going to change,” reports student paper Oregon Daily Emerald, “but that decision was not made without some hard thought by the Student Union Board.”
When the student union considered the question, some students asked, “Does the MLK quote represent us today?” The problem wasn’t so much the message, but the fact that it only focused on racial diversity instead of gender identity.
“Diversity is so much more than race,” said one sophomore architecture major. “Obviously race still plays a big role. But there are people who identify differently in gender and all sorts of things like that.”
Ironically, the King quote was to the lobby after students complained about another quote. Until 1985, the wall declared the University of Oregon “leader in the quest for the good life for all men.” That was replaced with the King quote after feminists objected to the implication that Oregon only cared about “men.”

 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/u-of-oregon-debates-removing-mlk-quote-for-not-being-inclusive-enough/

[theyarecomingforyou]

It's an issue for the university and its students. If they want to replace the Martin Luther King Jr. quote with something more inclusive and relevant then so be it. It's not like they're rejecting what he had to say.

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1 minute ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

It's an issue for the university and its students. If they want to replace the Martin Luther King Jr. quote with something more inclusive and relevant then so be it. It's not like they're rejecting what he had to say.

No the issue is these people can vote.

[trag3dy]

Actually replacing what he said with something "more inclusive" is rejecting what he had to say. There is no other way to interpret that.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

ugh.  This whole gender "identity" thing.  So much for "the content of their character" and this student body somehow trying to figure out if they have a more morally superior message than that of Dr. King.  Guess they didn't.  

 

The student body could have made an addendum to Dr. King's quote:

 

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by their gender confusions and the content of their character. I have a dream…”

[Torolol]

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...but by the content of their character....

well, this 'content of character' usually displayed enough in their parade.

[trag3dy]

Martin Luther King Jr and Rosa Parks and all those people who actually stood for something important would be ashamed of what this country has turned into. These students today are undermining every single bit of progress they made.

 

The most ironic and saddest part is that these students think they are doing it in the name of equality.

[theyarecomingforyou]

13 minutes ago, trag3dy said:

Actually replacing what he said with something "more inclusive" is rejecting what he had to say. There is no other way to interpret that.

Nonsense. The students aren't suggesting that MLK was wrong or irrelevant; they simply discussed replacing the quote with something more representative of the issues facing people today. Choosing one quote over another doesn't invalidate it - they are not mutually exclusive. If I choose to eat at McDonald's that doesn't mean I hate KFC.

 

Some of the comments in this topic are bizarre. I for one am glad that students are willing to debate matters like this and not simply take everything around them for granted. There are probably a thousand quotes that are equally worthy of being used - choosing one doesn't invalidate the others. It's worth noting they chose NOT to change the quote.

 

21 minutes ago, trag3dy said:

Martin Luther King Jr and Rosa Parks and all those people who actually stood for something important would be ashamed of what this country has turned into. These students today are undermining every single bit of progress they made.

 

The most ironic and saddest part is that these students think they are doing it in the name of equality.

Yeah, how dare students debate whether to choose a quote that is more inclusive. It's outrageous! I mean, MLK and Rosa Parks never challenged the status quo in their lives. 

[trag3dy]

8 minutes ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

Nonsense. The students aren't suggesting that MLK was wrong or irrelevant; they simply discussed replacing the quote with something more representative of the non-issues facing people today. Choosing one quote over another doesn't invalidate it - they are not mutually exclusive. If I choose to eat at McDonald's that doesn't mean I hate KFC.

 

Some of the comments in this topic are bizarre. I for one am glad that students are willing to debate matters like this and not simply take everything around them for granted. There are probably a thousand quotes that are equally worthy of being used - choosing one doesn't invalidate the others. It's worth noting they chose NOT to change the quote.

 

Yeah, how dare students debate whether to choose a quote that is more inclusive. It's outrageous! I mean, MLK and Rosa Parks never challenged the status quo in their lives. 

FTFY.

 

The "issues" facing students today are only issues because we've raised them to be spoiled brats who have had to face no real adversity in their lives up to this point. We've taught them that there are no winners or losers and that everyone is a special snowflake and deserves recognition just for showing up.

 

That type of thinking is wrong and only serves to make people weaker in the long run by dumbing them down and not allowing them to live up to their full potential. Not only that but it makes them easily controlled and promotes a heard mentality.

[Draggendrop Veteran]

In my opinion, historical quotes are made to be taken in the context when they are made, and are a part of our history. If one does not like it, remove it in it's entirety...but please do not modify quotes....some of us who lived through those times may not appreciate that....

[Anibal P]

It's a sad world we live in where Dr. King is not considered PC or "inclusive" enough for the retards in the SJW movement and their facilitators in the Left 

[trag3dy]

4 minutes ago, Anibal P said:

It's a sad world we live in where Dr. King is not considered PC or "inclusive" enough for the retards in the SJW movement and their facilitators in the Left 

Oregon tends to be very far left leaning which makes it easy to understand why this is an "issue" along with PCC's proposed whiteness history month.

 

http://www.pcc.edu/about/diversity/cascade/whiteness-history-month/

[theyarecomingforyou]

1 hour ago, trag3dy said:

FTFY.

 

The "issues" facing students today are only issues because we've raised them to be spoiled brats who have had to face no real adversity in their lives up to this point. We've taught them that there are no winners or losers and that everyone is a special snowflake and deserves recognition just for showing up.

How dare you! What an offensive and ignorant thing to say. The number of transgender murders is at an historic high; parts of America still openly discriminate against homosexuals; black people are being murdered by police in America at a grossly disproportionate rate; student debt is at its highest level; wealth inequality and poverty are on the rise; mass shootings are more common than ever. To claim that students today face 'no real adversity' is patently absurd and utterly devoid from reality.

 

You're just repeating tired conservative talking points.

[Open Minded]

2 hours ago, trag3dy said:

Actually replacing what he said with something "more inclusive" is rejecting what he had to say. There is no other way to interpret that.

 

Wait just one second, need I remind you SJWs don't use logic or reasoning?

[trag3dy]

30 minutes ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

How dare you! What an offensive and ignorant thing to say. The number of transgender murders is at an historic high; parts of America still openly discriminate against homosexuals; black people are being murdered by police in America at a grossly disproportionate rate; student debt is at its highest level; wealth inequality and poverty are on the rise; mass shootings are more common than ever. To claim that students today face 'no real adversity' is patently absurd and utterly devoid from reality.

 

You're just repeating tired conservative talking points.

All of those issues are exclusive to college students right and has anything at all to do with what I said?

 

Conservative talking points indeed.

 

Go on and continue being offended, I don't really care.

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21 minutes ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

How dare you! What an offensive and ignorant thing to say. The number of transgender murders is at an historic high; parts of America still openly discriminate against homosexuals; black people are being murdered by police in America at a grossly disproportionate rate; student debt is at its highest level; wealth inequality and poverty are on the rise; mass shootings are more common than ever. To claim that students today face 'no real adversity' is patently absurd and utterly devoid from reality.

Wow... that is full on SJW there. You think students are exposed to any of that? Just like their fictional rape epidemic?
You are just lumping together a bunch of dubious loosely connected statements.

Reality is that you no longer can criticize homosexuality and gender identity disorders let alone say that there are biological or cultural differences between races.

You would be fired, publically shamed, or possibly assaulted / killed for doing so. Rational students criticizing racist movements like black lives matter are, at best, shunned.

Having an opinion is no longer allowed - it is offensive, it is against the narrative. You are "transphobic" for being against kids having gender reassignment, you are "racist" for criticizing blacks people blocking traffic, you are "fat shaming" for promoting a healthy lifestyle and not being attracted to the morbidly obese... etc. This is the issue here.

 

Tell me, how do you feel about our young SJW college students embracing cultural Marxism?

 

[BurlyDuck]

Sigh.  The absurdity level at my alma mater has reached new heights.  It has always been wacky, and felt like a bubble protected certain portions since the late 60s.  That was at least limited to harmless and stoned hippies, who were rather pleasant.  This has "progressed" to a surreal level of absurdity.

 

In a few years, I wouldn't be surprised to see students wearing full body suits and masks to avoid any chance at physical appearance micro-aggressions, or whatever nonsensical phrasings they'll come up with by then.

 

[DocM]

5 hours ago, trag3dy said:

Actually replacing what he said with something "more inclusive" is rejecting what he had to say. There is no other way to interpret that.

Precisely, and it goes to show how ridiculous todays PC'ers and SJW's have become. Shame on them.

[theyarecomingforyou]

10 hours ago, _Alexander said:

Tell me, how do you feel about our young SJW college students embracing cultural Marxism?

Setting aside your use of the term 'SJW', I'm actually all for it. Marxism has never been more relevant.

[DocM]

1 hour ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

Setting aside your use of the term 'SJW', I'm actually all for it. Marxism has never been more relevant.

How very 19th century of you. What's funny is that Karl made money in the stock market. So did Engles, a factory owner.

 

 'It doesn't take much time to do this, and, if you are willing to risk a little bit, you can grasp money away from your opponents.'

~~ Karl Marx, 1864

 

Germany gave us 2 political philosophies; Marxism and Nazism. Both resulted in the death of tens of  millions by way of numerous atrocities & holocausts, and the enslavement of hundreds of millions more. 

 

Einstein said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

Marxism should have no more credibility than neonazis or the Klan.

[theyarecomingforyou]

1 hour ago, DocM said:

Germany gave us 2 political philosophies; Marxism and Nazism. Both resulted in the death of tens of  millions by way of numerous atrocities & holocausts, and the enslavement of hundreds of millions more. 

And millions have been killed by capitalism! In fact Nazism went hand-in-hand with capitalism, with the privatisation of national assets. Hitler arrested and executed socialists and communists, whilst fostering corporatism. The Nazis may have called themselves socialists but their politics spoke otherwise. Further, the US has destabilised the entire Middle East in pursuit of its economic agenda, whilst domestically millions have been forced into poverty by ruthless neoliberalism all so a tiny elite can live like royalty. Free market capitalism has resulted in devastation of the environment, grossly inadequate regulation, the collapse of workers' rights, wealth inequality and injustice.

 

Thankfully Americans are starting to realise that socialism is valid alternative to neoliberalism, evidenced by the rise in popularity of Bernie Sanders. The same is happening in the UK with the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, who has professed his admiration of Karl Marx. It's time to end the United States' toxic brand of capitalism.

[Anibal P]

7 hours ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

And millions have been killed by capitalism! In fact Nazism went hand-in-hand with capitalism, with the privatisation of national assets. Hitler arrested and executed socialists and communists, whilst fostering corporatism. The Nazis may have called themselves socialists but their politics spoke otherwise. Further, the US has destabilised the entire Middle East in pursuit of its economic agenda, whilst domestically millions have been forced into poverty by ruthless neoliberalism all so a tiny elite can live like royalty. Free market capitalism has resulted in devastation of the environment, grossly inadequate regulation, the collapse of workers' rights, wealth inequality and injustice.

 

Thankfully Americans are starting to realise that socialism is valid alternative to neoliberalism, evidenced by the rise in popularity of Bernie Sanders. The same is happening in the UK with the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, who has professed his admiration of Karl Marx. It's time to end the United States' toxic brand of capitalism.

I'm glad I don't live on your fantasy alternate reality, sad thing is you don't even have half assed "facts" to backup your nonsense anymore 

[Emn1ty]

On 1/28/2016 at 6:52 PM, theyarecomingforyou said:

You're just repeating tired conservative talking points.

And you're repeating tired SJW dogma. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

[FloatingFatMan]

19 hours ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

The same is happening in the UK with the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, who has professed his admiration of Karl Marx. It's time to end the United States' toxic brand of capitalism.

Corbyn doesn't have a chance in hell of ever leading the Labour party to a victory at the next election. He's WAY too left wing, even many of his own party can't stand the guy and want him gone.  He's made the Labour party completely unelectable with his ridiculous "policies".  The man is a borderline traitor and really should be removed from a position of influence as quickly as possible.

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

These kids literally dont understand what theyre doing. Theyre too young to fully comprehend what the ramifications are. They can only think on the surface-level that "what we're doing means something!" but what theyre actually doing deteriorates  our country's history and foundation.

 

These people are going as far as to remove the name Lynch from a campus building. What a way to honor that person! Pretty soon they'll want to change the name of Lynchburg, TN simply b/c of its name. Next they'll want to banish Disney b/c he was an anti-Semite. Then they'll want to banish Ford b/c he was a Nazi. Are these things socially correct in today's world? absolutely not. but theyre fact and a part of history.

 

These kids want to erase history instead of embracing it and learning from it. When youre at that age you cant fully understand the world and it's history. Twenty years ago is a "long time" let alone anything that might have happened longer ago than that.

 

To say this is an Oregon-only problem is short sighted b/c it's happening all over this country. Kids are embracing Sanders b/c he's an outspoken socialist. Socialism never works. We're already going down that path and training people that the Government will do everything for you and give you handouts. We need $15 minimum wage! We need Obama Phones! We need more food stamps! I dont have to work b/c of <this> reason! Handouts only enforce the need for people to try, and work, less. Collective socialism means people dont feel the need to strive for anything or work hard.

 

This country needs to stop pandering to the minority. Again, Socialism does not work. Stop it.