Does Chrome still suck? Also, why are you using Firefox?


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43 minutes ago, illegaloperation said:

Chrome is awful on BOTH Windows and Mac.

Valid opinion. 

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For the last couple of years Firefox has just run better for me that Chrome.  The only issue I have is on NEOWIN in Firefox is SLOWWW.  Pages load slow and once I open multiple tabs, forget about it.  Performance is terrible.  Not sure if it's a Flash issue or what.

 

I agree that extensions just work better, but there are a few extensions I use at work that are Chrome only.  Luckily, they also run in the background, so I don't actually need to use Chrome all the time.  Sometimes the memory gets out of hand in FF, but it's also because I have about 50 tabs open, lol.  A restart of FF will fix it.

 

If they would have fixed the TAB behavior a few years ago, I really wanted to switch, but gave up, so I'm just sticking with Firefox unless they really screw it up.  Plus I need Java apps at work and Chrome has some problems with those and with a desktop computer and SMARTBoards, you have to change some settings for the touch to work correctly.

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I'm big on Chrome inside Sandboxie, that way I can close down and wipe it at the end of the day and Google takes care of keeping my bookmarks and extensions synced.  

 

 

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23 hours ago, Royalty said:

Thanks for letting me know about the extensions as I use LastPass extensively.

I'm not sure what the issue is with Lastpass on Chrome but works flawlessly for me.

Chrome is good.  Used to be a big Firefox guy.

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Why I use Firefox over Chrome? Easy, you can't use any mouse gesture addon in chrome on settings/blank pages etc for "security" reasons. Firefox works perfect for what I want.

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22 hours ago, cork1958 said:

IMO,

Chrome is the biggest POS for a browser there is! Always has been and probably always will be.

 

On any of my 8 machines, whether Linux or Windows, Firefox is simply smoother running and faster than Chrome any day of the week.

But AFAIK, Firefox is behind the curve for a guy like me who has many folders with many links. Chrome installs and when I login, my links and folders are imported. Firefox doesn't have this.. again AFAIK.

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16 minutes ago, chrisj1968 said:

But AFAIK, Firefox is behind the curve for a guy like me who has many folders with many links. Chrome installs and when I login, my links and folders are imported. Firefox doesn't have this.. again AFAIK.

Are you referring to the synchronization of bookmarks, et cetera? Firefox has this capability.

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I use Netscape Navigator and find it does everything I need. Sometimes formatting is a little messed up but I live with it.

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26 minutes ago, Ian W said:

Are you referring to the synchronization of bookmarks, et cetera? Firefox has this capability.

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thanks. that's why I said AFAIK As far as I know... :D I have some extremely important login info, like my Veterans Affairs Myhealthevet website and some others. Ebenefits which is a portal for veterans to access their DD214's and other military records. If Google and Mozilla would collaborate and allow us to login to our google accounts in firefox, I'm game.

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15 hours ago, chrisj1968 said:

thanks. that's why I said AFAIK As far as I know... :D I have some extremely important login info, like my Veterans Affairs Myhealthevet website and some others. Ebenefits which is a portal for veterans to access their DD214's and other military records. If Google and Mozilla would collaborate and allow us to login to our google accounts in firefox, I'm game.

Doubtful that would ever happen, but hey you never know.

 

 

I generally switch between Firefox and Chromium. Even with e10's enabled on Firefox, it just doesnt feel as smooth as Chrome does for me, especially media rich tabs. Overall, Firefox just feel slow and seems to feel much slower as time passes. Chrome still uses a ton of memory, but it runs a whole lot better on my SBi7 and my desktop rig. I really want to like Firefox and use it as my daily browser, but some quirks here and there stop me from doing so. I like where Firefox is headed, however, I hope the developers of various extensions can update their work sooner, rather than later, to work properly with multi-process (e10).

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On my home computer, I use Firefox for porn. Edge/IE11 for casual browsing (no flash + hosts level advert/malware block).

On my work computer, I use Firefox because of Firebug. I never really bothered learning Chrome's development tools. I only try Chome/IE11 development tools when the behavior is different between browsers.

 

Problems with Firefox that Mozilla should fix,

  1. Firebug slows down Firefox for some dumb reason. This should not happen.
  2. In Firefox when one tab's JavaScript is unresponsive, I can't use another tab. Firefox is the only browser that is still single process.
  3. Yahoo

Problems with Chrome,

  1. Google
  2. User Interface is worthless ######

Problems with Edge,

  1. UI bugs and crashes frequently when dragging a tab out to a separate window
  2. GIF performance is ######, worse than Firefox

 

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I use on Windows and OS X:

 

- Chrome as primary browser, for nearly everything

- Edge (or Safari in Mac) for very personal Mail and Microsoft related stuff (Outlook.com, Banks, accounting, etc.)

- Firefox for work stuff (Router config., control panels, Office 365, etc.)

- Also rarely use Internet Explorer for Tax sites and very old pages with compatibility problems

 

On the iPhone:

- Safari as primary browser

- Chrome in certain cases

- Firefox for work stuff

 

No problems with any of them, except IE, wich is very slow by design.

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I was a Firefox fanboy, then the internet became more resource intensive and causes it to hang & perform poorly. Firefox has many exploits that the government uses to track you. Firefox is currently asking the government "pretty please tell us how your exploiting our browser."  I hated Chromes memory use. It spikes when launched, freezing tasks such as media playback. I work around this by using Hangouts extension. This makes Chrome  preload in the system tray & stay there after closing. CentBrowser is rock solid with features that rival others. One is to use a single extension thread to dramatically reduce memory use with no noticeable side effects. So go ahead & install all the extensions you want, just like Firefox. CentBrowser also includes a memory flush option (SlimJet): stop dns from leaking, stop html fingerprinting, mouse gestures, set Internet Download Manager as default, interface tweaks & more. LastPass works the same as it does in Firefox when it is installed in Windows by the .exe, not the Chrome webstore. Also check out this theme if your using Win 10 (Material Dark - MKBHD) search the Chrome store. MKBHD is a pretty well known individual, props! I will go back to Firefox when they get multi process working & at least 2 stable releases featuring it under there belt. The Mozilla development team is years behind & is not closing the gap anytime soon. https://www.centbrowser.com/

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52 minutes ago, chrisdoland said:

I was a Firefox fanboy, then the internet became more resource intensive and causes it to hang & perform poorly. Firefox has many exploits that the government uses to track you. Firefox is currently asking the government "pretty please tell us how your exploiting our browser."  

Do you have any proof to back this up? privacytools.io says otherwise, as does every other group fighting for our privacy on the web. Or is this just come random gibberish you came up with, to push centbrowser? 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

Do you have any proof to back this up? privacytools.io says otherwise, as does every other group fighting for our privacy on the web. ?Or is this just come random gibberish you came up with, to push centbrowser ?

 

 

Read the news.  Government took over a pornsite & continued it's operations to exploit a flaw in Firefox that allowed them to identify all users despite the fact they were using Tor. Tor has officially stated that this flaw is not in Tor but in Firefox. Mozilla has officially requested the Government release the flaw in the Firefox code to them so they fix the exploit. So far the Government has refused & Mozilla is currently in court trying to force the issue.  Try a quick Google search. Or do I need to post all links to the last 14 days of security news, so you can catch up on current events?

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17 minutes ago, chrisdoland said:

Read the news.  Government took over a pornsite & continued it's operations to exploit a flaw in Firefox that allowed them to identify all users despite the fact they were using Tor. Tor has officially stated that this flaw is not in Tor but in Firefox. Mozilla has officially requested the Government release the flaw in the Firefox code to them so they fix the exploit. So far the Government has refused & Mozilla is currently in court trying to force the issue.  Try a quick Google search. Or do I need to post all links to the last 14 days of security news, so you can catch up on current events?

Fair enough, I found those articles. However, Mozilla is taking steps to try and fix this exploit, but the government is not releasing the details of said exploit. Which is understandable for someone in their position (government). Do you want Mozilla to do nothing at all? Obviously, its worrisome that there is an exploit that is being used by the government, but I'd rather Mozilla acknowledge it and say "hey, we are trying, but the government refuses to release the exploit, so it is more difficult for us to fix it." I mean, if you really think Chrome/Chromium is safe from similar tactics, newsflash, I have some beachfront property in Kansas to sell you. Have you heard of WebRTC?

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Anyone who pays for a VPN does not want a browser that is proven to be compromised. Mozilla doesn't have the resources that Google does. Google offers hackers the opportunity to try & compromise Chrome, & rewards them with large $$$ payouts. Not saying that the Government couldn't pay Google to put in a back door for National Security reasons, just that if they did a well paid hacker or foreign government, would find the exploit.  I wish Mozilla could find a new revenue stream to afford the developers needed to code fulltime & bring Firefox back into the mainstream. I fear they'll follow Opera & that sucks! The reality is that developers recognize the work being done on the Chrome engine and are jumping on board. Microsoft with Edge browser, Opera with, well Opera browser, the Founder of Opera with Vivaldi browser, even Mozilla Co-founder, Brendan Eich, with Brave Browser. This is a global movement. Russia with Yandex, China with UcBrowser & Citrio.  China & Russia trust their government computers to use Google Chrome as the base engine with a few privacy tweaks, I thought recommending CentBrowser with those tweaks & more in english would be appreciated by Neowin users. But this is my personal view point and I could be wrong!

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I use both but comparatively Chrome more. It is all because I like its interface. But I haven't had any issues with Chrome regarding interaction of Add-ons and extensions. 

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