Open Minded Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 So their (BLM) logic is to stop cops from killing blacks, blacks kill cops. Makes total sense. What if white people used that same logic? "That black guy killed a white guy, time to go kill someone of the same skin color that had nothing to do with it." Yeah, I don't see a problem here. DConnell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted July 12, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted July 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Open Minded said: So their (BLM) logic is to stop cops from killing blacks, blacks kill cops. Makes total sense. What if white people used that same logic? "That black guy killed a white guy, time to go kill someone of the same skin color that had nothing to do with it." Yeah, I don't see a problem here. Blacks kill more Blacks than whites do or the Police do. Black on Black crime is running wild in this country especially in Chicago. I see a huge problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, Gary7 said: Blacks kill more Blacks than whites do or the Police do. Black on Black crime is running wild in this country especially in Chicago. I see a huge problem here. Oh, I know. In fact, police kill more white males every year than any other group. Sadly, facts take a backseat to emotions these days. +Gary7 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doli Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Quote Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any! The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out. That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society. The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally. Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem. TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to. https://np.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3du1qm/eli5_why_is_it_so_controversial_when_someone_says/ct8pei1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted July 13, 2016 Member Share Posted July 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Doli said: https://np.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3du1qm/eli5_why_is_it_so_controversial_when_someone_says/ct8pei1 That analogy has been doing the rounds on Facebook alot lately and it's so wrong my head hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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