Hurmoth Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 What changes from the PDC Build and build 4053 do you think there will be when and if there is a WinHec Build? I'm not completely positive, but I have heard from a friend that works at Microsoft that there will be a new theme (instead of Slate or Plex) that will be fun to "play around with" ... "note Aero, but something close to what we think Aero might look like in early stages." Of course, my friend could also be filling me with a bunch of bs as well! We'll find out soon enough though! He also said that there might be the basics of WinFS in the next build, but he didn't say much about it though :unsure: I could see that though since Yukon is coming out here shortly and it is suppose to have WinFS in it :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted April 13, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hopefully WinFS might have progressed a bit, and ways of utilising it more readily accessible so MS can start showing off that area. I think the graphical part is going to be one of the last parts, The structure might be put in place so we can see samples of what the framework is capable of but nothing resembling what the retail product might look and act like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 its prolly just a new build with new stuff to play around with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted April 13, 2004 Author Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hopefully WinFS might have progressed a bit, and ways of utilising it more readily accessible so MS can start showing off that area. I think the graphical part is going to be one of the last parts, The structure might be put in place so we can see samples of what the framework is capable of but nothing resembling what the retail product might look and act like. Yeah I knew that, what I think he meant was the framework of Avalon. Sort of like what we see in those concept videos. As of the builds we have now, Avalon is very scarce (at least in my opinion). I think more of Avalon will be present, not Aero. But then again, the only people who know is at Microsoft :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 What changes from the PDC Build and build 4053 do you think there will be when and if there is a WinHec Build?I'm not completely positive, but I have heard from a friend that works at Microsoft that there will be a new theme (instead of Slate or Plex) that will be fun to "play around with" ... "note Aero, but something close to what we think Aero might look like in early stages." Of course, my friend could also be filling me with a bunch of bs as well! We'll find out soon enough though! He also said that there might be the basics of WinFS in the next build, but he didn't say much about it though :unsure: I could see that though since Yukon is coming out here shortly and it is suppose to have WinFS in it :unsure: WinFS is in all Longhorn builds, but different levels of completeness obviously, you could see the SQL style searches in most builds. Yukon aka SQL2005 is out next year not this year and does not have Winfs in it, it is used to create Winfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted April 13, 2004 Author Share Posted April 13, 2004 WinFS is in all Longhorn builds, but different levels of completeness obviously, you could see the SQL style searches in most builds.Yukon aka SQL2005 is out next year not this year and does not have Winfs in it, it is used to create Winfs. Right, Yukon was originally suppose to come out at the end of this year and got pushed back to next year. WinFS though in Longhorn is broken in most places. But like you said, in each build it is at different levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted April 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2004 There's not supposed to be a new theme in Longhorn for ages yet (slate stays till near beta). I don't think there are any plans to show off a new theme in the WinHec build. Who knows though. Might see a bit more of DCE at WinHec though ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medievil Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 no slate!! damned, why did they create such a ugly theme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 no slate!!damned, why did they create such a ugly theme... Who knows? I hope they do have a new theme in the WinHEC Build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Well, I stayed after the Longhorn chat with experts was over, and I was talking to an MVP that remained there - he said he couldnt talk much about anything that we dont know yet, but we could expect it to be as impressive as the PDC build (the aero keynote one), at least. So that means DCE effects and Avalon/Aero :). Cant wait tho, specially for it to leak :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltal Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Well, I stayed after the Longhorn chat with experts was over, and I was talking to an MVP that remained there - he said he couldnt talk much about anything that we dont know yet, but we could expect it to be as impressive as the PDC build (the aero keynote one), at least. So that means DCE effects and Avalon/Aero :).Cant wait tho, specially for it to leak :). ahh, finally some good news! :woot: Thanks! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 PDC build was not impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medievil Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 PDC build was not impressive. his talking about the presentation build, not 4051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 PDC build was not impressive. Well, after Paul said that the PDC Build was going to be awesome ... I was really dissapointed. I mean, I understand Microsoft is taking their time with Longhorn but what have they been doing in the last 2, almost 3 years since XP came out? That was my question! If they had only been working on it for a year or less I wouldn't have cared, but up to Longhorn b.4053, the only difference between XP and that build is a few UI tweaks and more bugs (there are more, but not a huge change)! IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 PDC build was not impressive. Note I said the AERO KEYNOTE, as seen on Paul Thurrotts site :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Well, after Paul said that the PDC Build was going to be awesome ... I was really dissapointed. I mean, I understand Microsoft is taking their time with Longhorn but what have they been doing in the last 2, almost 3 years since XP came out? That was my question! If they had only been working on it for a year or less I wouldn't have cared, but up to Longhorn b.4053, the only difference between XP and that build is a few UI tweaks and more bugs (there are more, but not a huge change)! IMO Biggest problem with the PDC build was the speed of the OS, apparently the WinHEC build is going to be more useable in regard to but not as a proper OS obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 4053 was responsive relative to 51. cant wait!!! i actually like slate more than luna though. a lot more. i hope that it will suck compared to aero cause that would mean aero would be really cool. i htink there will be more winfs, moe sidebar functionality, luna would work better, better networking, better stabilty, sp2 features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 *prays for the memory leak in explorer to finally get fixed. Only took em what? A year to get it right? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 they fixed it in 4053. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 they fixed it in 4053. thats 50% true...Theres still sidebar leak ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOlClint Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 WinHEC Proly wont have DCE according to a Microsoft Employee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 WinHEC Proly wont have DCE according to a Microsoft Employee Uhm, whered you get that info? Which employee? Can they be trusted? Why should we believe you? Just wondering :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 thats 50% true...Theres still sidebar leak ;). Yeah, I was so dissapointed too cause I had heard that it was fixed in 4053 as well! :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannlich Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 We'll just have to wait and see. I doubt there will be a new theme included with the new leak. Most of the videos out of recent "advantages of longhorn technology" still show the slate theme. Also, if you watch the .NET show or whatever, they demo longhorn still using slate theme. I just hope it is a release that we can do a little more with. Either way, I am excited about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOlClint Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Uhm, whered you get that info? Which employee? Can they be trusted? Why should we believe you?Just wondering :). Baha Source yes I've got a source. It's offline ATM but I'll link to it when it comes back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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