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#31 xMorpheousx416

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 17:17

Erm, because a lot of people get XP whether they want it or not? Try and find a non-'whitebox' builder who will sell you a computer without Windows on it. Oops, you can't.



Uh, YA WRONG!! There's a computer store here where I live that sells nothing but Linux based machines. They have no Windows products, and in fact refuses to install Windows on any machine if you bring it in.

Try not to use "finalized" words.....unless you know for a fact that you "can't" get it "anywhere".

If you want proof, let me know, I'll send you the address and phone number of the store....ComputeRX.



BTW: Not every "pirate" is using a "stolen" key... all ya need to do is change the way XP installs to a "corp" version, and use a legitimate corporate key.


#32 Tropical Dream

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 00:23

Erm, because a lot of people get XP whether they want it or not? Try and find a non-'whitebox' builder who will sell you a computer without Windows on it. Oops, you can't.

Also, Microsoft needs pirated copies of windows to circulate. If everyone on here couldn't use a pirate copy of XP, I doubt they'd be using Windows. More likley Linux, or an older version of Windows. Which means they don't know how to administer XP and therefore they wouldn't recommend XP to other people.

Take me for example. I have upgraded about 30 peoples computers to legit copies of XP Home. I haven't purchased XP myself, instead I use the pro corp version. There is no way I am going to pay to use Windows, when I make MS quite a bit of money.

If I couldn't use pirated versions of Windows, then I'd use Linux. I don't think Linux is the best desktop OS but it's certainly better than Win98. This would probably mean I'd have a lot more experience with using Linux as a desktop OS (I'm pretty good with it as a server, but quickly get lost when using it as a desktop), and I'd be installing that on everyones computer.

Thanks for the help! :)

#33 neojoker

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 05:24

Yes, upgrading people's computers to Windows XP earns you a copy. In fact, since I've fixed so many computers, TVs, VCRs, etc. I wonder if I'd have a problem explaining this theory to the employees at a place like Best Buy if I attempted to just walk out with all their merchandise without paying for it. "I earned it!" Lol.

#34 xMorpheousx416

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 05:27

Hey Joker......stay outta my way man!! Best Buy is all mine....I earned it first! :p:p:P

Actually, you can have BB....I'll take the Circuit City down the street! :D

#35 neojoker

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 06:12

Good deal. There's plenty of stores for us all to share I'm sure. :)

#36 Jonny_C

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 08:08

he has a pirated copy!!!!
omg!

lol

#37 kagaku

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 08:21

Uh, YA WRONG!!  There's a computer store here where I live that sells nothing but Linux based machines.  They have no Windows products, and in fact refuses to install Windows on any machine if you bring it in.

Try not to use "finalized" words.....unless you know for a fact that you "can't" get it "anywhere". 

If you want proof, let me know, I'll send you the address and phone number of the store....ComputeRX.



BTW:  Not every "pirate" is using a "stolen" key...  all ya need to do is change the way XP installs to a "corp" version, and use a legitimate corporate key.

He's talking about companies such as Dell, HP, eMachines, Gateway, etc.. They simply won't sell you a machine without Windows; they can't. Your local computer shop has no such contracts with Microsoft, they're probably just installing retail or OEM copies of XP on the machines they build.

MS makes money anyways on every computer sold.
when you buy a Dell computer with Windows XP loaded,
MS will receive a percentage... or even close to the full amount.

so whether people have legit copies of Windows XP or not,
MS will still generate a good revenue.

It's not like cracking a game and where the developer will never get any revenue from the games cracked.
this is because games don't come preloaded generally on PC systems from the manufacturer.


They'll never get a cent from me! :p

#38 AltimaXP

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 08:24

yes they will, dont you buy hardware that has the little windows flag on the box? they get a few bucks from the company that asked ms to certify the drivers and rights to use the logo

#39 python134r

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 17:12

I believe unless it was the same volume license keys blacklisted in sp1 it will work fine. I do not condone pirated copies but we all know someone who has and I saw it and it works fine. Again the one machine is a testbed a tech I know has. I believe there is a thread linking to microsoft that explains it in thier words from them.

#40 xMorpheousx416

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 17:30

Kagaku,

I take it you quoted me, but didn't read the post???

Your local computer shop has no such contracts with Microsoft, they're probably just installing retail or OEM copies of XP on the machines they build.


No.....they DO NOT sell Windows. They will not install Windows. They sell PC's that run Linux....and only Linux. It's actually the only computer store I know of that is like that.

#41 Yusuf M.

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 17:37

MiB will come to your house and use that flash thingie on you. :|

haha

#42 fishie

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 17:46

all these stupid warez mongers on neowin. :sigh: neowin used to be such a nice place back in the day .

#43 AngryOldPerson

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 17:51

all these stupid warez mongers on neowin. :sigh: neowin used to be such a nice place back in the day .

no it didn't lol...folks still warez'ed just as much...it just wasn't mentioned in every other thread like it is now

#44 Bored

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 18:00

Yeah it's kinda sad now... Used to people were quiet about pirating, because they didn't wanna get caught. Now I hear people talking about it all the time when in stores and etc.

#45 boomn

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 18:02

He's talking about companies such as Dell, HP, eMachines, Gateway, etc.. They simply won't sell you a machine without Windows; they can't.

Actually they can, to a limited extent. For instance, Dell sells "Alternative Operating System" desktops in the Small Business store, but I doubt Microsoft would ever let them advertise linux to home users.
...On the other hand, Microsoft got in trouble in the past for this exact thing, although they settled out of court because they didnt want to admit wrongdoing. The issue was that Microsoft had set up deals with OEMs prohibiting anything but Windows sold on new computers. I think they even stopped selling Windows to some OEMs that had installed BeOS on new computers.
These OEMs most likely can sell home computers without windows, but they cannot afford to anger Microsoft, who would do anything they could get away with against the OEM :angry:

On Topic:
I thought they were only considering blocking WU for pirated keys, not SP2 itself

Edited by N@t5, 13 August 2004 - 18:11.