flakingbiscuit Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 OK. I've put some thought into this, and i'm finally getting a new PC, and I want it to be great for games, but also easily upgradable, so here's what i'm thinking about getting: Motherboard: Asus P4S333 P4 SiS 645 Chipset (DDR) ATX Processor: Intel P4 2.2 Ghz 512k PGA 478pin 400FSB Cooling Fans: TGF 020 Blue Orb Chip Cooler, ThermalTake Dragon Orb 478 with Speed Control Switch and 2 80mm Enermax Adjustable Fans Power Supply: EG301P-VE 300 Watt Power Supply Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1 with Remote Control Video Card: 64MB 4X AGP DDR GeForce4 MX TV/out NV70 Memory: 256 MB DDR 266 PC2700 Case: Zeus Silver Mid-Tower ATX Hard Drive: Western Digital U100 100GB 7200rpm Extra Stuff: High Voltage Applique Nice Little Fan Light This'll be a BIG upgrade compared to my crappy little 566Mhz i'm running now. I'm really excited. If anyone can think of any extra upgrades I should get, just make a post before I place the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniac1181 Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Well... How much ram u getting inside? And I personally think that if you realy want some real processing power... U should put in an AMD processor in it... (Or go all out with two AMD MP 1900+... :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liar2 Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by Maniac1181 Well... How much ram u getting inside? And I personally think that if you realy want some real processing power... U should put in an AMD processor in it... (Or go all out with two AMD MP 1900+... :)) I agree. And I would ditch getting the GF4 MX. Just spring for one in the Ti Series. Much better :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flakingbiscuit Posted April 16, 2002 Author Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by Maniac1181 Well... How much ram u getting inside? And I personally think that if you realy want some real processing power... U should put in an AMD processor in it... (Or go all out with two AMD MP 1900+... :)) I'm hoping to be buying more, but for starters, i'm going with 256MB DDR of PC2700. I'm sorta trying to keep with Intel for the processor since I have some stock in Intel and not in AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flakingbiscuit Posted April 16, 2002 Author Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by liar2 I agree. And I would ditch getting the GF4 MX. Just spring for one in the Ti Series. Much better :D The Ti's are sorta expensive for me cuz i'm trying to keep the price below $1500, but i'll look for some reviews and places to get em online at reasonable prices. After all, with a little job that gives me about $60 a month, I can't get everything. And, i'm only 16 and I gotta buy my own car, since my nice parents won't. Sometimes I hate em, and now is when i really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniac1181 Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Ditch the intel stocks... They are gonna sink anyways :D For now 256 is all right... but if u intend to get winXP on it well... go for at least 128 more... Oh and... I would go for RDRAM memory... its almost twice the price but it runs at 400MHz instead of 333MHz so you make full use of your FSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 The ATI 8500 is definately the best bang for the buck right now. Better image quality is just a fringe benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Get RDRAM, not DDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Zollo Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 THIS is the Ultimate Gaming Machine, they made it on The Screen Savers last week. UGM 5.0 Case: Antec Performance Plus 1080B, $179 Motherboard: Tyan ThunderK7 (S2462) dual-processor motherboard, $315 CPU: Two AMD Athlon MP 2000+ processors, $253 each RAM: Four 512MB PC2100 RAM sticks from Crucial, $225 each RAM cooling: ThermalTake Active Memory Cooling Kit (P/N A1165), $15 each CPU cooling unit: Two ThermalTake Volcano 7+ cooling units with fan speed switches, $39 each Storage enclosure: Antec KS004, $110 Storage cable: Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI, $62 Hard drive: 36GB Fujitsu SCSI MAM3367, $436 SCSI controller: Adaptec 39160 (on motherboard, $399 for expansion card) DVD-R: Pioneer DVR-A04, $375 CD-RW drive: Plextor PlexWriter 40/12/40A, $130 Video card: Visiontek Xtasy GeForce4 Ti 4600, $400 Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum, $199 Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, $299 Lights: Blue cathode light from Xoxide, $34 Fan grills: Xoxide, $19 Fan kit: 120mm Dynatron Fan Kit from Xoxide, $18 Tachometer: Xoxide (tachomter: $59; tachometer software: $15) Case modification: Xoxide, $50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faction Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by JZolloXP Hard drive: 36GB Fujitsu SCSI MAM3367, $436 Yes i must agree :) btw, your getting an awful bad case for such a nice setup.. get a lian-li or coolermaster case, as well as 512 ram instead of 256 and your set :) also.. ditch the gf4mx. . a geforce 3 ti is even better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniac1181 Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Heres what u can get with dell P4 2.0GHz 256 RDRAM 17in (16 viewable trinitron with .24dpi) 128MB geforce 4 ti4600 40GB ATA/100 WinXP pro Logitech USB optical 56K 16x dvd (or 24x32x10x cdrw) Office XP small business Dell Jukebox (musicmatch) 3yrs warranty + 3yrs on site support +lifetime phone support 6months MSN internet access (free) Surgemaster gold power bar 100$mail in rebate all for 63$ a month or 2,116$ And it is fully customizable... To me it looks like a hell of a good deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple-a-Day Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 take note guys he said game machine. the dual cpu's is over kill as the games dont support it short of quake he's be better off taking the xtra money to a better vid card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniac1181 Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Thats exactly what I did in the Dell Config :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faction Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by Maniac1181 Heres what u can get with dell P4 2.0GHz 256 RDRAM 17in (16 viewable trinitron with .24dpi) 128MB geforce 4 ti4600 40GB ATA/100 WinXP pro Logitech USB optical 56K 16x dvd (or 24x32x10x cdrw) Office XP small business Dell Jukebox (musicmatch) 3yrs warranty + 3yrs on site support +lifetime phone support 6months MSN internet access (free) Surgemaster gold power bar 100$mail in rebate all for 63$ a month or 2,116$ And it is fully customizable... To me it looks like a hell of a good deal! Dell's as well as all other brand name computers such as compaq,dell,hp suck. There motherboards are pure crap, and include not a BIOS.. but somthing what you would see as a customized bios, with nothing good on it. only problems. never get a brand name computer- dosnt matter if it costs you less [which it NEVER will!], they are always pure crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniac1181 Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Hey... 4get the first part... wrong post :x I totaly agree that Compaq, HP are a total piece of sh** but Dell computers are somewhat better than that... At least thats what I think... of course its no homemade self built PC but they are good computers... The only brand name PC I'd get on a budget (Unless maybe Alienware or Falcon northwest :D but then again thats no budget computers...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobbe Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by liar2 I agree. And I would ditch getting the GF4 MX. Just spring for one in the Ti Series. Much better :D GF4 MX? The GeForce4 MX use the NV17 chip while the Ti versions use the NV25 chip GeForce2(all versions) - NV15 GeForce3(all versions) - NV20 GeForce4 MX - NV17 GeForce4 Ti - NV25 I have also seen some benchmark on the GeForce4 MX, they don't look good, the GF3 Ti 500 performs even better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobbe Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Originally posted by Maniac1181 Well... How much ram u getting inside? And I personally think that if you realy want some real processing power... U should put in an AMD processor in it... (Or go all out with two AMD MP 1900+... :)) Define "real processing power"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif_Bigfoot Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Real Processing power = AMD. But anyway I would like to add my two cents. I would like to suggest going to www.ibuypower.com. They have some really nice systems for fairly cheap. I got mine last summer for around $1500. The only thing I've changed is a couple of fans. I'm saying to give them a look and see if you can get what you want for fairly cheap. One thing that is really nice about them is that if you get it with the OS installed they don't go in and install a much of extra crap. I worked on my uncles new last weekend and had to try to stop all the dell apps from loading with windows. All they do is use up resources and they have no legitamate function. If you want to stick with what you have I would suggest changing the vid card. The geforce 4 mx sucks. Either get a geforce 3 or a 4 Ti 2100. Good luck and happy gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xe|oN Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Whats some of you guys problem with having a Pentium 4 processor? Using high speed DDR memory (PC2700 and up) they are quite overclockable and the main thing is they run a hell of a lot cooler using a much slower and quieter cpu fan. I would probably get an Athlon XP 2000+ myself if I didnt have to have a 7000 or 8000rpm CPU fan sounding like a 747 to cool the thing so i've opted for a P4 1.8A or 1.9A, using the stock heatsink and fan (3000rpm) and doing a bit of overclocking when i upgrade in a month or so. If some of you guys have suggestions on how to cool an Athlon XP system quietly maybe you can change my mind, and others too :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 amiga. or a dc, psx, gc. real gaming machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 When comparing the performance of Pentium 4 processors, the choice of platforms is almost as important as the CPU itself. The i850/RDRAM system performed exceptionally and leaves little doubt that Intel now has the highest performing CPU/platform on the market. Where the Pentium 4-2.4 GHZ really impresses is in its ability to elevate the performance of the i845D as well, and surpass the nForce-powered Athlon XP 2100+ in the majority of benchmarks. This is where the real Intel victory comes, as Intel DDR performance systems have now become much more competitive. taken from http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/cpu/...3261_1002661__8 I was thinking of buying that amd chip but then I saw all the reviews on how much better this p4 2.4 is. It does cost alot more but if you want the top product, then you have to pay for it. I still like amd, but until they come out with a new chip to beat intel down for awhile, im going to have to buy the intel chip. btw check out this review if you havent already http://gamespot.com/gshw/stories/flat/0,12...2859753,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezza Veteran Posted April 16, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 16, 2002 AMD won't stay quiet when one of its products been outperformed by rival Intel :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinCain Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 My MSI nForce system w/ a AMD 1700+ (NOT Oc'd!!!) is performing anywhere from 45-67 point HIGHER in SiSoft Sandra 2002 than an Intel P4 2GHZ..... Explain that!!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wortmanov Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 For as far as u r interested in my opinion (but since I work in a computer store, I just can't NOT answer), i would go for rambus memory, otherwise it's just a waste of P4 power. About the CPU, I would leave it as it is, P4 is very well overclockable (one of the guys has a P4 1.8GHz, running @ 3.0GHz :D), as long as you just make sure u have enough cooling. GrEeTz Wortmanov (commersant@wanadoo.nl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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