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#1 easternBrain

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 20:28

Linux should be as easy as WinXP but Linux offers so much, it can overwhelm a new comer. It did that to me. I didn't know I could use up to 4 decktop environments, have 3 browsers, or 2 office suites for free.
Now, that may keep some people from Linux at home. They could make a flavor that is easy on options, plenty of programs but not too many of one type, and drivers for more hardware. I always had a problem with integrated devices and Linux.


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#2 vetmarkjensen

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 20:36

On a box that is set up, the answer is yes! Linux is as easy to use. My wife and kids have no problem on my Linux box.

However, setting up can be either very automatic (more so than in Windows, in fact!), or it can be very problematic. This depends on the hardware you have, and is the biggest challenge to the Open Source community to work on improving.

I feel that once Linux gains market share, this will get much better (and quickly!) as hardware vendors jump on-board.


EDIT: Moved the thread to the *nix Client section, as it really isn't a 'customizing' thing... :unsure:

Edited by markjensen, 29 January 2005 - 20:39.


#3 g-n-t

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 21:17

i can do more in linux after using it for 6 months than i could in windows after using it for 13 years. it is MUCH more usable.

with windows and OSX, you feel like you are trying to trick the computer into working. linux it gives you a lot more freedom.

#4 vetmarkjensen

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 21:18

I don't know about your OSX observation. I only test-drove it in the computer store, but it seemed pretty usable (even with just the one mouse button).

The thing that took the longest was finding how to open a shell so I could do a uname on it. ;)

#5 g-n-t

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 21:44

its the same with all propriety non-source OS's.

you have to do things the way apple/ms wants you to do things, and if you want to do something they havent thought of already, you have to trick it to make it think your doing something else.

i dunno, hard to explain.

ok, example, like needing a third party app to skin the OS. it applies to both of them. with KDE/gnome/all wm's/ that functionality is already there.

#6 blik

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 21:49

I would say, no. Not quite yet, but almost. Some things take a bit of work, but you have to willing to take a challenge every now and again, if you want to use linux :)

#7 tomasarson

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 21:52

I would say, no. Not quite yet, but almost. Some things take a bit of work, but you have to willing to take a challenge every now and again, if you want to use linux :)

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so ..... nearing?

#8 blik

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 21:54

so ..... nearing?

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Yes definately nearing. And very soon (6 months a year maybe, which isnt that long really) will be a viable alternative for everyone in my opinion.

hmm i misread the title as is linux at XP usability :blush:

#9 vetmarkjensen

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:02

Does anyone understand the poll? :wacko:

#10 vetAaron

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:05

I didn't really understand your poll options so I didn't vote. But, I belevie thta froma usability standpoint, assuming everything is set up just as it is when you buy a Win box, yes it is is pretty much there.

#11 Seth

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:07

Definitely far more so than a year ago. This is the third time I've really tried to use Linux consistently and I haven't been into Windows except to play games for a month :)

#12 Eli

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:13

I didn't understand the poll but I use both Windows XP and Linux on my laptop and I like both. I use Windows XP more though due to my school's programming course runs on it right now and so does all my applications. But I'm slowely but surely transfering over due to the flexability I have been able to find in Linux.

#13 jjkusaf

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:21

I'd have to say no...not yet. I just went through two distros (Mandrake, Fedora) and had one hell of a time trying to install nvidia drivers. Regardless how easy it is for *you* to install these...the error messages I received would cause anyone who just wants it to work...to stop trying. I never got the drivers working in Mandrake...got them working in Fedora which I ended up sticking with.

Installing software is another issue. It just isn't user friendly...period. Even with Firefox I ran into issues about having to install something else (forgot what now)...then I had to figure out how to install that something else.

Linux has been fun to tinker with (I have it installed on my other computer)...but when you have to get stuff done XP is the only way to go..IMO. Granted...Linux has come a long way since I first installed a linux box in 97/98...but it still isn't "there". IMO...all these distros...all these programs...all these installation wizard things...need to combine and make some sort of standard. Without a standard...confusion and the inability for newbies to work with Linux efficiently will not happen.

Edit: Curious about this "flexibility" that one finds with Linux (and apparently doesn't with Windows). What does that mean exactly?

#14 OP easternBrain

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:44

Does anyone understand the poll?  :wacko:

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im sorry about the poll, and wanted to redo it but have no idea about that.
even if the two options: pre xp -- free linux could be seperated it would look better

#15 g-n-t

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 22:46

I'd have to say no...not yet.  I just went through two distros (Mandrake, Fedora) and had one hell of a time trying to install nvidia drivers.  Regardless how easy it is for *you* to install these...the error messages I received would cause anyone who just wants it to work...to stop trying.  I never got the drivers working in Mandrake...got them working in Fedora which I ended up sticking with.

Installing software is another issue.  It just isn't user friendly...period.  Even with Firefox I ran into issues about having to install something else (forgot what now)...then I had to figure out how to install that something else.

Linux has been fun to tinker with (I have it installed on my other computer)...but when you have to get stuff done XP is the only way to go..IMO.  Granted...Linux has come a long way since I first installed a linux box in 97/98...but it still isn't "there".  IMO...all these distros...all these programs...all these installation wizard things...need to combine and make some sort of standard.  Without a standard...confusion and the inability for newbies to work with Linux efficiently will not happen.

Edit: Curious about this "flexibility" that one finds with Linux (and apparently doesn't with Windows).  What does that mean exactly?

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get yoper. it installs nvidia drivers automatically.

the installer is OK, not the best, but it really isnt that hard. just try it. also, yoper uses apt, so installing software is as simple as "apt-get install <nameofsoftware>"