Apollo Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 In many countries right now minorities are being connected with crime. Is that really what happens in your country or is it just sensationalism brought by journalists and other people who are against minorities? and what do you think is the problem? what should be done about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 The Black and Hispanic minorities in America are often associated with crime. Their incarceration and arrest rates are much higher than Whites'. Evidently this has something to do with poverty (those two minorities have a higher poverty rate), but i don't know. Not to sound bigoted, but i've heard of plenty of rich Black athletes getting in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombolcha Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 my umm aunt in law (if such a thing exists) she always tells me and her kids "there are two things that bring a black man down; drugs and white girls" it does have to do with the poverty, when people have nothing to loose, no one to care for them and almost all of them being addicted to some kind of drug, you're going to have these high crime rates. you grow up in that environment and that is all you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axon Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 I would disagree in some stances... The Hells Angels are responsible for a massive amount of crime, and they are caucasion. In Vancouver it would seem though that we have a race war. The East Indians, the Koreans and the Portuguese are killing each other off over drugs, And of course when they get too big, the Hells Angels swoop in. We don't have a very big African Canadian population, and I wouldn't quick to blame them for anything. I wouldn't be surprised if the immigrant population had a higher crime rate than the caucasions in Vancouver, but then again Vancouver is 43% immagrant. -Ax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Theres alot of ignorance in the ghetto, in this day and age there's no reason to: -gangbang -sell drugs and use the excuse "I'm in the ghetto i can't escape this way of life" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) The Hells Angels arent nearly as bad as they use to be. you grow up in that environment and that is all you know. Parhaps, but you can still get out. It's whether you want to or not... "there are two things that bring a black man down; drugs and white girls" That sounds about right.. white girls and drugs.. because nothing is their fault. Blame everyone/thing else. Take responsabilty? God no, that's way to hard, lets go smoke crack and knock off a liquor store! Gotta have a pimped out car and huge ass chains...but cant be caught working a job, because an honest income is for suckers. Edited June 12, 2005 by Soviet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 The Black and Hispanic minorities in America are often associated with crime. Their incarceration and arrest rates are much higher than Whites'.Evidently this has something to do with poverty (those two minorities have a higher poverty rate), but i don't know. Not to sound bigoted, but i've heard of plenty of rich Black athletes getting in trouble. 586053888[/snapback] Poverty is just part of it. The ghetto culture has a higher level of acceptance of criminal activity. Just because you give a person a lot of money doesn't mean they will change completely. It is hard to let go of certain attitudes and tendencies. @soviet Way to take a statement a spin it into a something completely different. The statement is advocating personal responsibility by staying away from drugs. That statement applies equally to all groups of people. I'm not going to even touch the white girl part. @ripgut I feel that you are oversimplifying the problem. Yes, there are people who get out due to hard work. The problem is not everyone in those situations is capable or want to leave. A good ananolgy would be a battered woman. A certain attitude will keep that woman in a bad situation. However much people close to her plead to her to leave that relationship, she stays hoping that it will get better or that this is the best she will ever do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 @ripgutI feel that you are oversimplifying the problem. Yes, there are people who get out due to hard work. The problem is not everyone in those situations is capable or want to leave. 586054559[/snapback] I disagree, i speak from experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 It has something to do with poverty, but whites get a certain privaledge in the judicial system that others simply do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I disagree as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted June 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 13, 2005 there are a number of issues: poverty/economics, sociopolitical issues (e.g. prejudice, acceptability/culpability, etc.), education, opportunities. minorities may be connected with crimes because that may be the actual state of affairs. it may be true that there is a higher percentage of criminality in a particular group than in another one. this isn't sensationalism. of course, we also forget the highly publicized "white" crimes (typically white collar crimes). we don't typically connect white people to enron or tyco. we tend to think of these as isolated instances. in the end, there is crime everywhere, although there may be different types. our conceptions of crimes are colored, to some extent, by society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I disagree, i speak from experience. 586058121[/snapback] What experiences lead to disagree with my last statement? My experiences would lead me to say that in some ways it is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Sticking to school no matter how tough your situation may be. I went to H.S just to get away from my house. I didn't do any work while i was there because i had alot of anger in me, my house was full of drugs (brother sold dope out the house) My mom attempted suicide. Ever have someone come to your house with a shotgun in there hands? I started drinking @ 13 years of age. I had to fight with raoches for food i hated my youth. I look at how life was and how easily preventable alot of things were and then i see how most folks in the ghetto are still to this day, and it sickens me. Especially now compared to the 1990's Ther eis no excuse for getting an education and getting the **** out. It's all about being strong and having a will to wanna get out for a better life, i know i tried and i got out. Some people's situations aren't the same in the ghetto but if one stays strong they CAN get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curme Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 In many countries right now minorities are being connected with crime.Is that really what happens in your country or is it just sensationalism brought by journalists and other people who are against minorities? and what do you think is the problem? what should be done about it? 586053871[/snapback] Minorities are a problem where I live. They get drunk and rowdy, and steal. It's the culture they come from. I'm not racist against whites, but they seem to not be able to hold their liqueur. Luckily, they live on a different part of the island and usually keep to themselves, but I still feel weird when I drive through their neighborhood. I have worked with whites before, some are ok, but they usually have to prove that they are not jerks first. I know it's wrong, but that's just the way my mind works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Sticking to school no matter how tough your situation may be. I went to H.S just to get away from my house. I didn't do any work while i was there because i had alot of anger in me, my house was full of drugs (brother sold dope out the house) My mom attempted suicide. Ever have someone come to your house with a shotgun in there hands? I started drinking @ 13 years of age. I had to fight with raoches for food i hated my youth. I look at how life was and how easily preventable alot of things were and then i see how most folks in the ghetto are still to this day, and it sickens me. Especially now compared to the 1990's Ther eis no excuse for getting an education and getting the **** out. It's all about being strong and having a will to wanna get out for a better life, i know i tried and i got out. Some people's situations aren't the same in the ghetto but if one stays strong they CAN get out. 586058466[/snapback] There is the main difference between you and most people in the ghetto. You had the mindset to achieve in school. The ones stuck in the ghetto don't have that drive. Some are perfectly content to live likethat , or can't figure out how to get out. Some people just don't have the book smarts to excel enough to leave. Personally my home has been free of violence. Unfortunately there were people selling drugs next door. A few of my cousins and family friends have did time for selling drugs. There isn't really a gang problem like bigger cities. Some of my cousins in Florida were involved in gangs. One was killed over some girl that involved a member of a rival gang. It depends on city and the person. Has really that much changed since 1995, to make a monumental change in the ghetto and other economically depressed areas? There are still breakdown in families to lead kids to gangs as substitutes. Lack of decent paying jobs still lead kids to sell drugs. The lure of quick money can corrupt even the most pure kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curme Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I know that the minorities in Seoul have been so bad, especially around Sinchon, that some places have put up signs that say, "No Americans" But they mean the military, so if you are a minority, who doesn't look like you are from a local military base, you won't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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