Viserov Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 WASHINGTON (AP) -- An agreement was reached Thursday to extend daylight-saving time in an effort to conserve energy, but not to the extent the House approved in April.House and Senate negotiators on an energy bill agreed to begin daylight-saving time three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and extend it by one week to the first Sunday in November. The House bill would have added a month in the spring and another in the fall. According to some senators, farmers complained that a two-month extension could adversely affect livestock, and airline officials said it would have complicated scheduling of international flights. "We ought to take a hard look at this before we jump into it," said Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, who questioned how much oil savings the extension would produce. Reps. Edward Markey, D-Massachusetts, and Fred Upton, R-Michigan, agreed to scale back their original proposal, and Senate negotiators accepted the new version, along with a call for a study on how much daylight-saving time actually affects oil consumption. "The beauty of daylight-saving time is that it just makes everyone feel sunnier," said Markey. Upton noted that the extension means daylight-saving time will continue through Halloween, adding to safety. "Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," said Upton, because they'll have another hour of daylight trick-or-treating. Lawmakers said they hoped to complete the energy legislation next week. S: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/22/con...e.ap/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Concerning farm lifestock, there's no reason they should be effected. The animals don't wear watches. The farmer just needs to get out and milk or what ever he is doing at the same time minus the daylight savings. So during day light savings he can just get up an hour earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted July 22, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 22, 2005 Concerning farm lifestock, there's no reason they should be effected. The animals don't wear watches. The farmer just needs to get out and milk or what ever he is doing at the same time minus the daylight savings. So during day light savings he can just get up an hour earlier. 586253165[/snapback] i no, i was confused, its as if they are acting like this will change the rotation of the earth :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malbojia Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Well does this effect the rest of the world or just the country itself lol. I mean -5 eastern in canada would be -4 or -6. Would be hard on flights on other aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 I think the whole DST thing is a joke in modern times, anyway. Farmers just need to surrender to the system, adopt electricity, buy an alarm clock, and wake up an hour eariler/later, depending on the time of the year. I mean, do other countries use any form of DST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I think the whole DST thing is a joke in modern times, anyway. Farmers just need to surrender to the system, adopt electricity, buy an alarm clock, and wake up an hour eariler/later, depending on the time of the year. I mean, do other countries use any form of DST? 586253413[/snapback] Yea, tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 Yea, tons. 586253422[/snapback] But are all of these countries following the same DST standards (starting and ending on the same days)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Well does this effect the rest of the world or just the country itself lol. I mean -5 eastern in canada would be -4 or -6. Would be hard on flights on other aspects. 586253427[/snapback] Ontario is following suit with the US. A bill is being passed by the Legislature to make sure Ontario has its clocks in sync with our neighbours to the south. I guess its up to each province to decide on whether they want to stay the same or change their clocks. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 But are all of these countries following the same DST standards (starting and ending on the same days)? 586253449[/snapback] Oh no, yea, every country has their own standard. Except the EU which has standized it. And I think all the former USSR countries are using the same standard too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I think it's really stupid in this day and age. When I was in China it was soooooo nice not having DST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malbojia Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 well guess quebec will never change it seen how it likes been 20 years behind in the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMilner Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) Will Microsoft have to release a patch so that Windows will automatically adjust for this new DST? -- Edit -- And what about printed calendars?!?! You can't patch printed calendars! They'll all be WRONG and the world as we know it will be taken over by...by...oh, well...um...nevermind. :p Edited July 22, 2005 by DMilner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Will Microsoft have to release a patch so that Windows will automatically adjust for for this new DST? 586253571[/snapback] Whoa I didn't even think of that. They might have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 Oh no, yea, every country has their own standard. Except the EU which has standized it. And I think all the former USSR countries are using the same standard too. 586253464[/snapback] Heh, how confusing. I'm glad I never travel out of the country. Does anyone know when this would take effect when the bill is signed? The CNN article didn't specify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluepride35 Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...ght_saving_time Another article on this topic. Never realized what an impact it would have (the whole Canada and Mexico thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Kids will rejoice? Someone likes to hear himself speak. Last I checked, half the fun of trick-or-treating was being out in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpshiznid Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Next year, Indiana will use DST for the first year... ever. I wonder how that will effect us. We already have our own setting in Date & Time Properties. We'll no longer be special. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 DST really does suck, and farmers don't even need it anymore..zzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishX Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 "According to Congress' thinking, if Americans can wait an hour to turn on their lights at night, the nation should be able to conserve at least some energy." Congress would think that way. If they turn their lights on later, but it's still dark in the morning, they're still going to use the same hour's worth of lights in the morning instead of the previous night. You use lights when it gets dark or is dark no matter what time it is. This whole thing is just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andareed Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Many times when I wake up it has been light out for hours. So if they shift back by an hour, you would get an extra hour of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Please discontinue this BS we don't need DST it's so useless! Only to add more confusion and what about people like me with 7 clocks, would get really annoing uless they were all connected via wireless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webeagle12 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 this all thing with changing time is pain in the @$$ we have a time and we should follow that time all year long, not go ever mile and change the clocks :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amrinders87 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I heard about that on the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted August 1, 2005 MVC Share Posted August 1, 2005 Please discontinue this BS we don't need DST it's so useless! Only to add more confusion and what about people like me with 7 clocks, would get really annoing uless they were all connected via wireless. 586303165[/snapback] I for one like it still to be light out at 8pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Iceman Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Yet another case of politicians abusing their power to do stupid things. I honestly dont see how this can hae any effect on energy conservation, it just shifts the usage to a different time of day. Now everything that automatically adjust for daylight savings time will be outdated. And last time i checked, kids LIKED to trick or treat in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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