Kr0z Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Thought this was a sad piece of art. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted July 28, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 28, 2005 yeah. the war is useless. but the dealth of only 670 us citizens is not the worst part of it. come on "670 soldiers" - big freaking deal. pfff you know how many innocent peple die everyday in countries other then states? i mean the short term consiquences of this war are far greater for other countires then they are for US. 670 dead people is something of a signinficance of a fly on the shoulder for Bush. i am certain he could not care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0z Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 yeah. the war is useless. but the dealth of only 670 us citizens is not the worst part of it.come on "670 soldiers" - big freaking deal. pfff you know how many innocent peple die everyday in countries other then states? i mean the short term consiquences of this war are far greater for other countires then they are for US. 670 dead people is something of a signinficance of a fly on the shoulder for Bush. i am certain he could not care less. 586283667[/snapback] I hear what you're saying. I felt really deeply sad when I saw this picture. Puts faces to numbers, and that is what causes the impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 panacea u are right about that more people die everyday in other countries, but what whats sad is that even one person had to die because of a lie. any death is sad but especially a sacrifice for a lie.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarterSwede Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) I honestly believe Bush does care about everyone of the people who have died in the "war," as I've seen him visit with families a lot. You can think I'm an idiot but I don't actually care, and you know what they say about opinions ... Also, there is a point to the war. What I'm sick of is hearing how wrong the war is from people who are against war to begin with. Hello people, we are never going to get along perfectly because we don't live in a utopia. Edited July 28, 2005 by Jstphish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted July 28, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 28, 2005 I honestly believe Bush does care about everyone of the people who have died in the "war," as I've seen him visit with families a lot. of course he would. it is expected of him. if he did not it would stir a huge negative impact on his ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarterSwede Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) of course he would. it is expected of him. if he did not it would stir a huge negative impact on his ratings. 586283774[/snapback] What I didn't say is that I've heard what he has said to and how long he spent with people that I know. First hand witness testimony is a lot more reliable than tv media for sure. I don't get this from watching him on the news (as the media puts a slant on everything, even both sides (liberal and conservative)). Most of the news that I get is from people who work up there as I live in the D.C. commuting area. Edited July 28, 2005 by Jstphish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 I honestly believe Bush does care about everyone of the people who have died in the "war," as I've seen him visit with families a lot. You can think I'm an idiot but I don't actually care, and you know what they say about opinions ...Also, there is a point to the war. What I'm sick of is hearing how wrong the war is from people who are against war to begin with. Hello people, we are never going to get along perfectly because we don't live in a utopia. 586283753[/snapback] u are right people will not get along, we obviously do not live in an utopia but the thing is since this nation and its allies are supposed to be civilized, starting such a conflict IS WRONG and unexcusable. doesnt matter how unperfect a world is, the "super power" with its so called superior morals and ethics should not start wars based on lies. simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 I think this picture is garbage. It is demeaning to the deaths of the soldiers and exploits them to take a jab at bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 I think this picture is garbage. It is demeaning to the deaths of the soldiers and exploits them to take a jab at bush. 586283944[/snapback] I agree. Pre-election propoganda that didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_C Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Every life lost in vain is tragic. Bush or someone else,the weapons had to be spent. How else would the military machine survive. It is tragic to see people support a maniac,who has world domination plan in his mind. The people dying there are wasting their lives and do not change a thing. Army is there to occupy,people are there to defend whats theirs,just like nam,panama,columbia... The soldiers who survive become ill of x syndrome,tested on them,on this occasion,etc. All in all SAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 Every life lost in vain is tragic.Bush or someone else,the weapons had to be spent. How else would the military machine survive. It is tragic to see people support a maniac,who has world domination plan in his mind. The people dying there are wasting their lives and do not change a thing. Army is there to occupy,people are there to defend whats theirs,just like nam,panama,columbia... The soldiers who survive become ill of x syndrome,tested on them,on this occasion,etc. All in all SAD. 586284754[/snapback] unfortunatly u hit the nail on the head. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony T. Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 That picture is just exploiting the good people of the US Army. Why must we do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 670 soldiers died? big deal. How many innocent civilians die in Iraq? The media always makes it more dramatic when U.S Soldiers die, much more than when civilians of another nation die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 That picture is just exploiting the good people of the US Army. Why must we do this? 586287940[/snapback] Because it was posted on Micheal Moore's website a while back. It was his picture. Does that answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph3412t3h13 Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 bush :no: impeach :yes: flame war :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmah Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 Bet you could repaint the Sistine Chapel with the amount of civilians killed, however... :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
704 Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Bet you could repaint the Sistine Chapel with the amount of civilians killed, however... :whistle: 586291860[/snapback] They're all dead and dying, on both sides. No one is better than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Tom Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Perhaps someone should do a picture of all the 25 million Iraqs who are now free from an opressive dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 Perhaps someone should do a picture of all the 25 million Iraqs who are now free from an opressive dictator. 586292130[/snapback] or the 100,000 innocent civillians that died because of an greedy lying leader back at home. since when does death and chaos count as freedom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 Welcome to RWI gents (and ladies of course). Moved from MM to RWI ~DivADPArADox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zh3n Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 or the 100,000 innocent civillians that died because of an greedy lying leader back at home. since when does death and chaos count as freedom? 586292356[/snapback] Exactly....I'm sure more soliders died in this war,let's not forget,it doesn't matter how much we might disapprove of this war. What now matters is,we are where we are now and people die in wars. How many wars have there been and no one dies?Whether innocent or not there are going to be causalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted July 31, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 31, 2005 no only 2000 died in this war so far. my deal is, we didnt need to be there. is it a crime to be angry about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsandthefamily Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 The only regret i have about the war is, so many people werent ready for it, which is a shame because we cant except to live in this hippy life forever. Times have changed and affirmative action was taken, and made us stronger, and will make iraqs people stronger. I'm glad we saved a country, its no different than giving blood, or hair, or making medicines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted August 1, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 1, 2005 Well the main difference between the war in Iraq and giving blood is more often than not 1700+ US soldiers don't die most times I give blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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