Hum Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 MOUND VALLEY, Kansas (AP) -- A Siberian tiger attacked and killed a teenage girl who was posing for photos at a family-run animal sanctuary Thursday in southeast Kansas, authorities said. The Labette County Sheriff's office identified the victim as Haley R. Hilderbrand, 17, of Altamont. A statement from the office said Hilderbrand was at the Lost Creek Animal Sanctuary posing for photos with the 7-year-old tiger, which was being restrained by its handler, when the animal turned and attacked her. :o Officers and handlers killed the animal. Emergency personnel were not able to revive Hilderbrand. full story: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/18/tiger.attack.ap/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 thats just ****ing bull**** they shouldn't kill the tiger, its not his fault that he been taken from the wild and being used as some show animal tigers belong in the wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRiver Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I agree.. they should not have killed the tiger. Remember, the reason that tiger ended up in sanctuary is mainly becuase of human greed. That tiger must have been abused either in circus or illegally imported into United States without proper humane treatment. That 17 year old should have known better when she decided to take photo shoots. Tigers are there to remain the rest of their lives in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazgul Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 thats just ****ing bull****they shouldn't kill the tiger, its not his fault that he been taken from the wild and being used as some show animal tigers belong in the wild. 586401212[/snapback] I agree.. they should not have killed the tiger.Remember, the reason that tiger ended up in sanctuary is mainly becuase of human greed. That tiger must have been abused either in circus or illegally imported into United States without proper humane treatment. 586401217[/snapback] Ok, first of all, you guys have no idea how the tiger got there. Could've been been born in captivity, for all we know. Second, no matter how it did wind up there, this isn't a question of "oh the poor tiger". The poor tiger just killed somebody. You'd rather they kept it alive and wait for it to do this again? It's great you guys care so much about animal life, now how about showing some regard for human life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRiver Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 yeah.. an eye for an eye.. that's what you meant by human life? and yes, I would rather keep the tiger alive. They deserve to be left alone without any types of human interaction. If she didn't come to them for photo shoot in the first place, nothing would have gone bad. In the end, it is her fault, and she paid it with her own life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 You take a tiger, whether from the wild or from captivity, it may play nice some of the time. But one time it may bite someone, and you know why? COS IT'S A TIGER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted August 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 19, 2005 Ok, first of all, you guys have no idea how the tiger got there. Could've been been born in captivity, for all we know. Second, no matter how it did wind up there, this isn't a question of "oh the poor tiger". The poor tiger just killed somebody. You'd rather they kept it alive and wait for it to do this again? It's great you guys care so much about animal life, now how about showing some regard for human life? 586401231[/snapback] Regard for human life? No one is disrespecting the little girl who tragicly died, but this IS A TIGER. They don't exactly roam the streets as strays. The tiger should have been removed from the sanctuary and either shipped on back to it's natural habitat or put in a professional zoo where it could properly be handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Baltar Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 it's unfortunate but that's life. they are truly majestic and amazing animals but it's what they do, they kill other animals, they ain't no vegan. but let's face it, if you had a dog and it turned and attacked someon (went feral) then you'd have to get it put down, it's the law and that's that. it's sad for the animal because it was just doing what it's supposed to do but if the owner was a bit more cautious and had treated it as what it was, rather than a sideshow cat, then this wouldn't have happened. i just feel sorry for the girl, she's the true victim in this, my thoughts go out to the family. :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyranthus Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 hooray somebody died!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 My point is this: People go and see these WILD ANIMALS (ok they may have been reared in captivity, but they are still wild animals). The attraction is that they are WILD ANIMALS. You can't blame the damn tiger for doing what tigers do. Blame the idiot that puts a tiger in a damn petting zoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C:\Smoke> Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 hooray somebody died!!! 586401300[/snapback] I hope people cheer when you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 The poor tiger just killed somebody. 586401231[/snapback] You can't expect a tiger being all nice to humans just because it is in captivity or was born such. A wild animal as this has killer instincts no matter what, and at the time it feels threatend in any way it will attack. I can understand putting a dog, an animal that has been with humans for centuries, to sleep in a case of someone's death or serious injury.. but a wild animal.. NO NO! And especially endangered species. There're probably less than 1500 Siberian tigers left, of which 200 or so live in the wild. Now it's one less. And surely, human loss is sad indeed, but if one preaches protecting endangered species, then one should do so, even in cases like this. In the end, what good did killing such a magnificent animal do?! :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I think that deserves a Darwin award. It's a friggin' tiger!! Even as a kitten (or pup or whatever the hell they are called) they can kill your ass if you aren't careful. Sure it's a tragedy that she was only 17 but come on. That's like me trying to pet a Croc and complaining cause it bit my leg off. sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazgul Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Regard for human life? No one is disrespecting the little girl who tragicly died 586401274[/snapback] If she didn't come to them for photo shoot in the first place, nothing would have gone bad. In the end, it is her fault, and she paid it with her own life. 586401254[/snapback] Yeah, I'll keep that in mind next time I consider going to a zoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted August 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 19, 2005 The Tiger doesn't know any better! Its nature, its instinct is to kill.. to put it into a position like that surrounded by potential prey is asking for trouble. You wouldn't expect to pose with a shark and then get upset when it decided to take a bloody bite out of you.. why is this any different. I'm sorry the little girl died, truely I am, but this is a classic case of human stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRiver Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) Regard for human life? No one is disrespecting the little girl who tragicly died, but this IS A TIGER. They don't exactly roam the streets as strays. The tiger should have been removed from the sanctuary and either shipped on back to it's natural habitat or put in a professional zoo where it could properly be handled. 586401274[/snapback] There is no guarantee that tiger will be safe if we send it back to its natural habitat. First of all, the cost of shipping it back is expensive. Second of all, smugglers can easily recapture and import these exotic animals back to the State. As for professional zoo, I don't really consider it as a good idea. If you have seen shows on Animal Planet, you will know that most tigers in sanctuaries had endured years of abuses. You can't expect them to behave properly in the zoo. They aren't as nice as those 16 tigers at MGM Grand Casino. Even those tigers at casino will end up in sanctuary one day because they are too old to showcase. A lot of times, SPCA will send these exotic animals to local sancturies becuase people volunteer there actually take good cares of tigers unlike professional zoo. At zoo, you get a trainer. At sanctuary, you get a dedicated care-taker, and tigers retire in peace. Edited August 19, 2005 by ThunderRiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 And also.. why is it every time people kill an animal, or lets say a Siberian Tiger if you want to make it equal, all they get is a bloody fee to pay and they can go on with their lifes. In some cases some are put in jail, but still. How about we do the same to those who kill those animals as in this case with that girl and the tiger? But oh noes... governmets and human rights and whatnot will scream that killing doesn't solve anything. Well then WTF are they doing to the tiger!!! Damn, humans should extinct or something.. or at least dumb ones. >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 There truely are some heartless pricks on this forum. A 17 year old girl was killed and all you care about is the tiger being shot? Shame on you Neowin users, shame... on... you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Ok, first of all, you guys have no idea how the tiger got there. Could've been been born in captivity, for all we know. Second, no matter how it did wind up there, this isn't a question of "oh the poor tiger". The poor tiger just killed somebody. You'd rather they kept it alive and wait for it to do this again? It's great you guys care so much about animal life, now how about showing some regard for human life? 586401231[/snapback] yes its is poor tiger, the way i see it there is about 1000-5000 (probably less) tigers in the wolrd, compared to 6 billion people. ok, so one girl got killed, but its human greed and stupidity at fault, leave the damn animal where it belongs, in the wild and speaking of tiger beaing safe, its a wild animal, its not a house hold ###### cat. so what tigers, crocs, lions, hyanas, etc are not safe, so its ok to kill them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRiver Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 There truely are some heartless pricks on this forum.? A 17 year old girl was killed and all you care about is the tiger being shot?Shame on you Neowin users, shame... on... you. 586401382[/snapback] What is so great about caring a dead 17 years old? She is dead..done and period. She paid the price with her own life. Is there anything we can do to save her life? Nope. But does the killing of tiger solve anything? Definitely NO! If she posed with tiger, she must have loved tigers dearly. Do you think she wants you to go "an eye for an eye" by killing the exotic animal she posed picture with? Do you seriously think it is humane to kill an animal just becuase we violated their territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 There truely are some heartless pricks on this forum. A 17 year old girl was killed and all you care about is the tiger being shot?Shame on you Neowin users, shame... on... you. 586401382[/snapback] Why shouldn't we care about the tiger?? There are only 2000 (1999 now) of them left in the world and there 6.5 Billion dumbass humans. We are the ones that should be close to extinction not the tigers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Do you seriously think it is humane to kill an animal just becuase we violated their territory. 586401403[/snapback] another question, is it ok to kill animal for being an animal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 People die every single day. With no disrespect, but just because someone got into news doesn't make it any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutimus Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 No one has brought this up yet, so I thought I might. You all complain about the killing of the tiger just because its being itself, which I kind of agree. But you don't know how it was killed. Maybe it was during the attack and one of the handlers had a revolver strapped to his/her hip and shot down the tiger mid attack. And maybe the tiger had fatal wounds but the adrenaline (i would imagine tigers have a lot of that) caused it to carry through with the attack, and maybe attack even more violently. Then once the tiger was done, it layed down and died. This kind of case, i see as a little more understandable, they at least try to save the human life. But then again theres the whole "its pretty stupid to crawl into a cage with an instinctly wild animal in the first place" part. Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 On the case of human stupidity.. here's another killing of a tiger. The guy diserved what he the tiger did to him. To bad tiger got shot. :/ http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,...1419194,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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