Smit Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 THIS IDIOT COULD HAVE BEEN SHOT DEAD BY POLICE - MOTHERS AGAINST MURDER LAST NIGHTBy Stephen White And John Kelly THIS is the shocking moment a teenage yob waves a gun at shoppers watched by his gang of "hoodie" friends. The thug stretches his arms out and points the gun as if taking aim at terrified passers-by on the busy street. But far from being a deprived inner-city area, this is 4pm in the well-heeled market town of Knutsford, Cheshire - home to millionaires and Premiership football players. David and Victoria Beckham used to live in nearby Alderley Edge. Stunned shoppers panicked and phoned 999. Police considered sending armed officers to deal with the gang, but, after deciding they were not dangerous, seized the weapon which shoots ball bearings. But last night Lyn Costello, of the campaign group Mothers Against Murder and Aggression, said: "This idiot wants to thank his lucky stars he's alive. "If armed police turn up they have two minutes to decide what to do. "Just look at the recent tragedy in London. His parents could have been visiting him in a morgue." And Michelle Forbes, of Mothers Against Guns, called for a ban on replica guns, labelling them "toys that kill". She said: "We have got to get the message across that guns are used by cowards who lack maturity and want to intimidate and control and replica guns are just as bad as the real thing. "Possessing them should be treated as having a real firearm. Replicas are so good these days that no one can tell the difference anyway." Dad Andrew Morton, 30 - whose toddler son Andrew was killed by an air rifle pellet in Glasgow in March - added: "I still can't believe these guns are so easy to get hold of. They are not toys, they should all be banned." One witness yesterday described the terrifying event on Monday. He said: "I saw him waving what appeared to be a firearm. "For anyone who walked past and didn't know what was going on it would have caused instant panic." He blamed the behaviour of young people on a lack of facilities. He said: "They are out of control." Ball bearing guns can only be sold to people aged 17 or over but are available by mail order or on the internet. It became illegal to carry the replicas in public last year. Insp Craig Arterton, at Knutsford police station, said: "The gun is not terribly dangerous although if a ball bearing caught you in the eye it would cause an injury. "If he had threatened somebody with it then he would have committed a criminal offence. "If he was just waving it around aimlessly then it is unlikely he will face any action." Cheshire police said the youth was taken home where he was warned about his conduct in front his parents. The gun seizure follows several incidents involving out-of-control youths in the town. Earlier this week a couple were attacked by around 15 hoodies at Knutsford train station. The woman, 32, suffered a shattered ankle in a 15ft fall from the platform as she tried to escape the mob after one thug chillingly said: "You're not going home tonight." Sgt Craig Thomas, of British Transport Police, said: "This was a vicious, cold-blooded attack - she is very lucky to be alive." DO you know who the hoodie gunman is? If so call our newsdesk on 0161 6836402. Article Link Just after I post my rant about chavs I walk down to the shop and spot this on the newspaper rack. Here is the image from the front page as the article doesnt have it: And look at this bit: The woman, 32, suffered a shattered ankle in a 15ft fall from the platform as she tried to escape the mob after one thug chillingly said: "You're not going home tonight." Sgt Craig Thomas, of British Transport Police, said: "This was a vicious, cold-blooded attack - she is very lucky to be alive." This country needs to wake up before we are swarmed under by these scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 You're totally right. People are afraid and intimidated by CHILDREN.. its an insane state of affairs, and we really need to take it back from them. When will the proper measures be put in place to tackle this slackjawed pieces of trash?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 Just another day in the UK I suppose. Stuff like this is so common now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodel Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I honestly wouldn't have cared if they had shot him, infact I'd rather they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 i say bing back national service, prehaps that will put and end to jonny "ganster wanner b" and his crew of chavs from, acting like a bunch of pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 Exactly, stop making such a issue of it you little bitch Mengha :sleep: 586434221[/snapback] Whoa, I wasn't having a go at him, just saying. i say bing back national service, prehaps that will put and end to jonny "ganster wanner b" and his crew of chavs from, acting like a bunch of pricks. 586434228[/snapback] I gather you watch Bad Lads Army :p Fantastic series :) And I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLEHINATOR! Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 geeze, to do something like that with the current situation in the UK, you must have either got no brains, no respect, dont give a damn or a mixture of all of the above... Out-friggen-rageous. :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Weed Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Useful comment :rolleyes: 586434227[/snapback] Haha yeh, about as useful as you complaining about this on the internet, because obviously, it's going to help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smit Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Haha yeh, about as useful as you complaining about this on the internet, because obviously, it's going to help.. 586434246[/snapback] Nothing is going to help. No one seems apart from normal, nice people seems to give a crap about how these scum ruin peoples lives. So where should I be complaining about this then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Cops should have shot that little punk and all his little friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Sadly this doesn't surprise me... the uneducated/ignorant breed the uneducated/ignorant - they tend to have more children than educated/decent people whilst scrounging around being paid for by society. :no: Cut back benefits and you cut back the scum... it is the government's fault for letting this get out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craybox Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 didnt any of you your tykes play with guns bow and arrows e.t.c. e.t.c. too much of nanny state. ahhel - thats as much a stupid comment as the incident itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 We played with TOY guns and stuff...not something that shoots ball bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I gather you watch Bad Lads Army tongue.gif Fantastic series smile.gif And I agree. nope dont watch it, but in the day when england had national service we didnt have ptoblems like little chavs trying to be gansters. what the hell was that idiot thinking. this is a chavs day out 12pm wake up after a long night of underage drinking and drug abuse. 1pm decide what stores to steal from. 1:30pm goto local model shop and buy silly little BB gun, with faked portman group card(prove your age cards to our american readers) 2pm hang out at local shopping center with hoods up "trying to look hard" 3:30 time for lunch, goto KFC and get the cheepest bargin bucket they can find to feed self and chav accoiates. 4pm back to into town to wave BB gun at passing shoppers. 4:30. taken home to parents by local police. and told (u bad boy dont do it again) 5pm back out on streets with chav gang, to hang around the local offlicence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Should have shot him, 1 less knob in the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyboy Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 no discipline or respect these days it is an already out of control problem. I was out with my girlfriend a month or so back and when walking home (about 12) i saw a group of youths (6 or so) ranging from about 15-17 cross the road and started to walk towards us.....you could tell they wanted to try something, then as they got closer they all stepped into the road except for one was they all walk past i heard the one who stayed on the pavement say nah i aint starting on him....(see all the hours in the gym do pay off) but i consider myself lucky because it could have gone another way. Point is law needs to do something about this.....these 'kids' all know nothing will be done to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 didnt any of you your tykes play with guns bow and arrows e.t.c. e.t.c.too much of nanny state. ahhel - thats as much a stupid comment as the incident itself 586434270[/snapback] no one needs to own thoes stupid BB guns. they should be made ilegal to own no matter how old you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smit Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Sadly this doesn't surprise me... the uneducated/ignorant breed the uneducated/ignorant - they tend to have more children than educated/decent people whilst scrounging around being paid for by society. :no: Cut back benefits and you cut back the scum... it is the government's fault for letting this get out of control. 586434261[/snapback] Yeah the benefits system in this country is crap. All you see are drunk people, teenagers with babys, and the rest of them all outside of the dss/benefits offices. They go in and plead, "I need money for food", "I need money for my Nth child". Office writes them a check and they go striahgt to the post office, cash it, and go and buy alcohol or clothes or something else that isn't what they got the money for. Whats gets me is all these people on benefits that go in asking for more money are all wearing expensive clothes, lots of jewerally, have ?120 prams for their babys, if they are so poor why the hell do they buy all this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craybox Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 one thing we all agree on is the kid is an Idiot, OK Don't turn this into something it shouldn't, we played with replica guns and catapults that were far more dangerous than that when i was child. its just typical of the media frenzy that turns this country into the god damn nanny state that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 no discipline or respect these days it is an already out of control problem.I was out with my girlfriend a month or so back and when walking home (about 12) i saw a group of youths (6 or so) ranging from about 15-17 cross the road and started to walk towards us.....you could tell they wanted to try something, then as they got closer they all stepped into the road except for one was they all walk past i heard the one who stayed on the pavement say nah i aint starting on him....(see all the hours in the gym do pay off) but i consider myself lucky because it could have gone another way. Point is law needs to do something about this.....these 'kids' all know nothing will be done to them. 586434285[/snapback] they arnt so hard when they mess with the wrong person. then they go home to mummy crying "mummy some one hit me, because i was trying to be all ganster like, i tryed my best to prove to him iam the hardest but i got bitch slaped insted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 one thing we all agree on is the kid is an Idiot, OKDon't turn this into something it shouldn't, we played with replica guns and catapults that were far more dangerous than that when i was child. its just typical of the media frenzy that turns this country into the god damn nanny state that it is. 586434299[/snapback] the ones i played with were obviously were toys and looked nothing like a real gun although I stopped playing with them after the age of about 9 cos I decided to be a bit more grown up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Cat Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 i say just shoot to kill on any and all chav's regardless. they are becoming a very large problem as the government refuses to do anything about it and chav's spawn like maggots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I didn't realize that they meant BBs when they said ball bearings (i thought they meant the ball bearings that are the size of your finger)...my bad. Yeah we played with those...weren't dumb enought to point them at anyone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 This kid should have been treated EXACTLY the same as an adult with a fully loaded handgun. His intention was to make people think he was pointing a real gun at them. Fine, then he should have been treated as if he was. The fact this tosser was let of is 100% pathetic. What message is it giving out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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