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#1 Steven P.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:29

It's not up to me how people view Neowin on their browsers, because short of installing scripts that detect adblockers (they exist) we'll always have to put up with it. I ask simply that people don't gloat about it, show some respect. This is a privately run website, not a state run service.

I don't consider people who block ads thieves! I just find it totally disrespectful that they gloat about it and then come on here spouting off as if I owe them.

Neowin is in every sense of the word a 2 way street, the visitors ensure we can stay online by visiting and letting the ads display (ad blockers are detected by our publishers and we DON'T get paid for blocked ads) and it's our duty to invest the revenue back into the site as we've been doing for the past 3 or 4 years, which has in turn offered stability far beyond anything we had before 2005.

It's the most basic economics and people who reckon we'll do OK without the ads are living in a dreamworld.

* Previously I said that we would put gloaters in a "special group" (flood control and limited profile permissions such as no sig etc) this never happened! But maybe people would understand why I felt I should respond to people who gloat in that manner.

Edited by Neobond, 19 May 2008 - 10:27. Reason: Amended from a later post that I made



#2 panicswitched

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:40

i never have found the need to block ads on neowin as they are not in the way and work with the site design
this is a good desicion on your behalf neobond :happy:

#3 +Wannes

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:50

Finally, action has been taken. Good on you Nebond. :cool:

#4 matt95110

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:58

Well I'm glad that you're finally doing something about this. However it shouldn't be necessary, Neowin's ads are non-intrusive and SUPPORT THE SITE, AS NEOWIN COULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT THE AD REVENUES, but what do I know?

#5 nou

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:00

who's having problems with ads on Neowin? I barely notice they're there.

#6 panicswitched

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:54

who's having problems with ads on Neowin? I barely notice they're there.

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exactly theyre not flash or not that i have noticed they dont blink annoyinly they are just there, they dont even slow load time

#7 badnewz

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:56

From now on, people who tell others how to block ads here will be warned and moved into a flood control group with a minute wait. This includes members who gloat about blocking ads.

Profile and Sig options will also be removed (seeing as we have to pay for all that extra bandwidth on sigs).

Dont disrespect me guys because I'm fed up with it. Mods will be told about this new policy forthwith.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that this revenue keeps us online.

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this has got to be one of the stupidest posts ever.

how dare you talk to us like that.

#8 IceDogg

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:56

Good for Neowin, but it's sad that's it come to this. Even if you block ads you should whitelist sites you want to support and can trust (like Neowin) and don't brag about it all over the site. He even ask nicely for people not do that in the post about the ads improvements and yet some just had to anyway. Sad!

Offtopic a little, but is the ad free subs still in the plans? Not rushing just hoping that hasn't changed because of all this.

#9 panicswitched

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:59

this has got to be one of the stupidest posts ever.

how dare you talk to us like that.

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its his site in all honesty
dont like it? leave?

NeoBond has my full support on this and im just a user

#10 shawn

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:02

So we ain't got any more picture sigs?

#11 panicswitched

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:12

So we ain't got any more picture sigs?

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i dont see why sigs would be removed as sig images shouldnt be hosted on neowin so hopefully no worries

#12 shawn

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:17

Ok then.....sad thing to see this happening right here though..

#13 f0rbez

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:17

Thats kind of harsh to bar any talk about blocking ads, just because of the possibility of blocking some ads from this site. There are many sites who use intrusive advert methods and many legit reasons people would want to block them.

#14 joker999

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:20

Hey! thats good idea :)

but i dont know other view of point.

like: they dont like the annoying ads etc..

i have no idea.


edit:

Whoa! :o http://www.websiteop...n.net/index.php

Global Statistics
Total HTTP Requests: 81
Total Size: 291769 bytes (Thats about 292kb for one damn page!)

Download Times*
Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 226.34 seconds
28.8K 113.27 seconds
33.6K 97.12 seconds
56K 58.35 seconds
ISDN 128K 18.01 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 1.75 seconds




no good :no:

Edited by joker999, 25 October 2005 - 09:00.


#15 pixated

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:23

The only reason people block ads is not the ads itself but the slowness of them. Most of the time it takes 10 seconds for me to load a page in Neowin, and I've tracked it down to the ads server. With no ads pages load instantly.

I disabled my adblock, but you are only hurting yourself with this since the ads slow things down considerably (at least for me they do).

Will v5 have a option to subscribe and have a site without ads? That would be a good solution.