techquilla Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 i saw this at << spam >> and its pretty interesting..........!! "Found this article over at Tech-report.com and it seems like AMD based processors are being test over at the apple labs right now, so rumors of AMD based macs may come sooner or later...this rumor IS true (i have my sources but i cant say much but we wont be seeing AMD based macs for atleast a year or 2 so dont get excited yet. If IBM's new desktop 64-bit PowerPC chip doesn't fly, it looks like Apple has at least AMD's Athlon XP processors as a backup. TR reader Jrdbeau sent me a link to this interesting story on what may be Apple's contingency plan if it's forced to move to an x86 platform. Nevertheless, these observers report that Apple has been serious enough about its ace in the hole to seed a few lucky civilians with prototype boxes ?delivered heavily swaddled in layers of cloak-and-dagger security, natch. Specifically, recent testers report taking delivery of Athlon-powered boxes that Apple had assiduously..." if this is true.........then does it mean that in the future, we will be able to run MacOS on PCs?!!! cuz, you know, they'll have to port their operating system to the x86 platform................... i'm really excited about this............. any comments.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted November 15, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2002 its been known. :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted November 15, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2002 haha this will shut up all the Mac fan boys saying they are faster :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Like I said at HWG: Here a rumor, there a rumor, everywhere a rumor. :hmmm: f this is true.........then does it mean that in the future, we will be able to run MacOS on PCs?!!! cuz, you know, they'll have to port their operating system to the x86 platform................... i'm really excited about this............. NO, this has been said numerous times all over the place. Do you really think Apple is going to give up their hardware? You will NOT being running OS X on your PC boxes. Do we really need this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techquilla Posted November 15, 2002 Author Share Posted November 15, 2002 so, will it be possible to run macOS on pc if apple does the move......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted November 15, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2002 so, will it be possible to run macOS on pc if apple does the move......? DUH.... thats a silly idea. and the keyword in the sentence is IF :angry: edit: post 3500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 this would be a good move on apples part, they need to start getting their hardware from other sources so they can drop the price and acctually compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost5525 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 apple? amd? naaaaaaaaaa :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Why isn't this in the Macintosh section?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted November 15, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2002 cuz not everyone posts in the right forums :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokd Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Actually, Mac OS X CAN run on PC right now, it's not released to the public though. I found an article a few months ago on slashdot.org and said that Apple is already running OS X on PCs in their labs. So they already DO have a port of it, they're just making sure it doesn't get out. I dunno, I really hope they do somewhere down the road let Mac OS run on PC because I hate windows and I'm too chickensh*t to try Linux cuz I don't know d**k all about Unix and stuff. It'd be really sweet if they did it though... :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techquilla Posted November 15, 2002 Author Share Posted November 15, 2002 cuz not everyone posts in the right forums :p ok, that's my bad........ :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeza Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 how many of you guys would actually switch over to OSX If it were on the PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Actually, Mac OS X CAN run on PC right now, it's not released to the public though. I found an article a few months ago on slashdot.org and said that Apple is already running OS X on PCs in their labs. So they already DO have a port of it, they're just making sure it doesn't get out. I dunno, I really hope they do somewhere down the road let Mac OS run on PC because I hate windows and I'm too chickensh*t to try Linux cuz I don't know d**k all about Unix and stuff. It'd be really sweet if they did it though... :ninja: Uh, did you read the first post in this thread. That is exactly what is being said. And listen closely it's a big fat rumor. Could be true, probablly isn't though. No one knows. And IF Apple moves to x86 it will be specifically designed for Apple and OS X will still only run on Apple hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpfreak Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtmcgee Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 IF we see a move to x86 arch - you still wont' be able to run os x on your dell or something like that. apple will still use their own hardware, and will use some mechanism to make sure only apple hardware runs OSX. something like a speciality bios would be my guess. basically, don't get your hopes up of running os x on your current PC. guess you'll have to stick to those crummy os x lookalike themes for now ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 apple would be smart to release a pc version of osx. propietary hardware is apples biggest down fall. i know if i could choose windows or osx, i'd go with osx. but would i buy apples over priced hardware? not in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 apple would be smart to release a pc version of osx. propietary hardware is apples biggest down fall. i know if i could choose windows or osx, i'd go with osx. but would i buy apples over priced hardware? not in a million years. Apple is a hardware company with a great OS. That's why you will never dualboot windows and OS X. Hardware is their bread and butter. As of right now, it looks like Apple is switching to IBMs sweet 64bit processor in the next 2 years. That will most assuredly keep the Mac in contention with pcs on speed/performance (and possibly pass). From the early specs, (very early), it is a much better processor than any 32bit/64bit processor Intel/Amd has on the burner. Course when Macs do start putting out computers with the same mhz/ghz as pcs (or higher), I'm sure some will find other ways to bash them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 apple would be smart to release a pc version of osx. propietary hardware is apples biggest down fall. i know if i could choose windows or osx, i'd go with osx. but would i buy apples over priced hardware? not in a million years. apple hardware isn't overpriced. you get great softwares as well, so that should justify the price. it's a combination of great hardwares and softwares, and that's what pc can't offer. i certainly don't wish apple port osx to pc. it would spoil it all. apple will never do that anyway. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Well said, as good as the hardware is, you aren't paying a high price just for it. You are paying for the untouchable integration of OS X and its hardware. This is something that doesn't exist in the PC world and is an upper hand for Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Amen!! Preach it brothers!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvo Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 my guess would be that apple will be forced to lower their hardware prices. why is this because if they are going to use pc cpus and speeds then it goes back to the customers dodo brain. If they see an Intel Pentium 4 cpu at 4.0ghz and an Apple PC at that same price and there is a $1000 price difference (figuring in that a 1.2ghz G4 already costs more then a good pc) the customer will obviously buy the cheaper pc. You can't justify $1000 for macosx. Also understand that the moment Apple steps in the x86 architecture there will be a mod/hack out within weeks to get OSX to run on a non-apple PC... seriously.. what protection scheme has truly worked on the PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intensityx Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Mac OSX would not run well on the vast PC platform unless it was limited to specific hardware that Apple could tune the OS to. It would suffer the same woes and no doubt many more than Microsoft has in the past and still does today. OSX runs well on Mac hardware is because it is designed (tweaked) for that hardware. This is similar to the way that the embedded XP OS that runs the XBOX runs very well on that hardware, but it is not going to run well on just any old PC hardware that you pic up at the local computer store. It is tweaked to run on that specific XBOX hardware, the same goes for other consoles. It's easy to get good results when you control both the OS and the hardware, it's a whole other game when you have to design an OS to be compatible with just about anything you throw at it. If you want a good performing OSX you'll need to have it running on Mac hardware otherwise, chances are you're not going to be too happy with what you get. The type of compatibility required to power the PC platform requires very extensive and ongoing development and Microsoft is way ahead of the game on that. I highly doubt that Apple would care to move to a platform where it would be very difficult for them to control performance and reliability since it could seriously affect their reputation and could possibly undermine their hardware sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvorgold Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 here's what i heard will be for the mac lineup: late 2003: ibook: unknown powerbook: g4 still emac: g4 imac: g4 g3 imac: long gone... PowerMac: 970 Xserve: 970 if the market needs a huge boost in '04...: late 2004: ibook: dunno...i would say G4 probably... powerbook: AMD Hammer (probably to be codenamed "HammerBook" or something) emac: AMD Hammer imac: AMD Hammer PowerMac: higher end hammer...or still 970 Xserve: higher end hammer...or 970 also... we'll just have to wait and see tho, since they may ditch the hammer/whatever amd processor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted November 16, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 16, 2002 well, failing a total meltdown of any power4-producing plant. I HIGHLY doubt apple will drop power4 in favor of x86 processors. I mean, the major hurdles in getting to the platform (you know, like convincing EVERY software vendor to recompile and re-release all their programs...um, yeah) aer reason enough alone not to do this. I'm suprised the project has gotten this far. Not unless they have built a REALLY slick and transparent powerpc emulation layer will this come out. Ever. PERIOD. This isn't about technical limitations, just basic busniess theory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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