Slimy Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 All you owners of HDTVs that can only do 1080i, we've got some bad news for you. Sony Computer Entertainment America's head honcho of Corporate communications, David Karraker, apparently retracted -- or at least backtracked -- on Sony's previous statements about the increasingly infamous 1080i issue (the one that won't let PS3s play games at 1080i on HDTVs that don't support 720p). According to GameDaily, Sony cannot actually confirm this issue can be fixed via a firmware patch (although they're not denying it, either), and that they are "looking into the issue and haven't stated any actions that will be taken regarding it." Engadget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Ooohh noes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCobra Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Ha Ha and freaking Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 What's everyones problem, they didn't say their not going to fix it, they just covered their ass by not making promises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetik Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Oh noes, all those extra pixels! Bad move on sony's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Bad move on everyone-who-bought-that-kind-of-tv's part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Probably the HDTV encoder chip only supports progressive picture formats. If this is not the case, then they could just update the software with a few lines of code for it to work (unless they do the encoding in software, then it would require huge changes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Bad move on everyone-who-bought-that-kind-of-tv's part the 360 doesnt have this problem, so no, not bad move on them....bad move on sony for blaming their customers rather than themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noveed Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 move over-estimation on sonys behalf, you overhype the hell out of a console then under deliver, i expected nothing less. Although i am keep to see what the future brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 the 360 doesnt have this problem, so no, not bad move on them....bad move on sony for blaming their customers rather than themselves What? why bring x360 into this? Who buys a 1080i hdtv that has no 720p? Thats just...stupid - Id rather see a progressive image than an interlaced one :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 "teh obviously!" :laugh: :rofl: :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted November 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2006 What? why bring x360 into this? Who buys a 1080i hdtv that has no 720p? Thats just...stupid - Id rather see a progressive image than an interlaced one :s can you really tell the difference that drastically....yeah it may not affect you but if you just dropped 600 on a console that wont put out 1080i on your tv id bet you would be ****ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted November 26, 2006 Global Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2006 i don't know many tv's that display 1080i, and not 720p, but for the owners of those tv's, i feel bad for you. it is sony's fault, you need to please everybody, not just the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2006 What? why bring x360 into this? Who buys a 1080i hdtv that has no 720p? Thats just...stupid - Id rather see a progressive image than an interlaced one :s i don't know many tv's that display 1080i, and not 720p, but for the owners of those tv's, i feel bad for you. it is sony's fault, you need to please everybody, not just the majority. All HD tubes display 1080i for HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briandl79 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 i don't know many tv's that display 1080i, and not 720p, but for the owners of those tv's, i feel bad for you. it is sony's fault, you need to please everybody, not just the majority. Basically all tube sets do 1080i and not 720P, a lot of people own them, especially the popular 34 inch Sonys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 So, its those _really_ old, giantic-normous tv's we're talking about? EDIT: Are the Sony Vega series also HD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 What? why bring x360 into this? because you blamed the consumers when it obviously isn't the consumer, rather the developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 because you blamed the consumers when it obviously isn't the consumer, rather the developer I got offtopic then - Im talking that it is a stupid move buying that kind of tv in GENERAL ....IMO >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 HAHAHAHA... sad. But hey, you get what you pay for... RIIIIIIIGHT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 5 years ago, I was the stupid... My second TV is a Panasonic 36" Tube TV, HDTV 4:3 (yeah, those existed!). It can only support 480i/p, 540p and 1080i Back then, it's costed MUCH less than real 16:9 HDTV and gave GREAT result while watching progressive scan DVD. I'm still using it for watching standard TV, the picture quality is great and beats everything else. It's heavy as hell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger.Girl Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I got offtopic then - Im talking that it is a stupid move buying that kind of tv in GENERAL ....IMO >_> A few years back it was smart and people shouldn't have to shell out more money again when they have something that works fine and looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted November 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2006 What seems to be the issue exactly? It outputs in what..720p/1080p and it can't do 1080i? Scaler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagamer34 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 The problem is that Sony's version of 1080i now for games that don't support that resolution is to drop down to 480p and upconvert that. Sure, it looks better than 480p would on a regular TV, but definitely not what you'd expect after spending $500+ and expecting "HD gaming". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 What? why bring x360 into this? Who buys a 1080i hdtv that has no 720p? Thats just...stupid - Id rather see a progressive image than an interlaced one :s Uhh, that's the most idiotic comment I've seen. It downscales to 480p, instead of upscaling to 1080i. Now lets take a look at this: 480p is EDTV, and 1080i is HDTV. I don't care what kind of tv freak you are, an interlaced image at 1080 is going to look far, far more amazing than a progressive image at 480. Your comment may not be bogus if you're comparing, say 1080i to 1080p, but not from an EDTV image to an HDTV image. That's just stupid. This is not the consumer's fault - it's all on Sony. They tout the whole "Everything you can do, I can do better" thing against the 360, and they can't do something so simple as upscale an image based on what the TV type is. Remember, not everyone is so technologically well-adapted as some of us here are, and even some that are coulud make the purchase just as easily. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Typical Sony. Spitting out crap that they can't deliver. I wish more companies would be like Apple. Not say a damn word until it's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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