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Don't know if this is relevant but here goes.

Did lots of searches on Pi and it turns out that it's used in something to do with HTML. In HTML, the capital letter Π can be produced using the codes Π or Π, and the lower-case by using π or π within the source code.

Maybe a secret message within the source code of something?

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Dont know if this means anything but it seems you can match up the puzzles in order with her quadruple majors

physics and time passes (physics has alot to do with time in a sense)

stage arts and magic happens (a magician is a type of stage performer)

history and memories fade (memories are history or past)

folklore and people disappear (alot of people in folklore never really existed so it would be natural for them to disapear)

or maybe like everyone else Im just over anylizing everything trying to find the next clue....

Interesting idea. In the video clip you see once all the clues for the first box are completed Loki talks about how her GPA was Pi. Pi being related to circles .. if you search for vanish points and circles I found this

"Curvilinear perspective is a way of drawing using five vanishing points. Four vanishing points are placed around in a circle, they are named N, W, S, E. And there is one vanishing point in the center of the circle."

If the four majors are equal to the four boxes then perhaps they are equal to vanishing points placed around in a circle and we are to solve where/what the fifth vanishing point is.

Or am I stretching?

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That bar code looks a lot like this image and it is split like the caption suggest. Where to go from there excapes me though.

I wonder what that inanimate object is sitting on the desk between the 2 images on the wall.

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There are 4 boxes. Each with 4 "Easy", "Medium" & "Hard" puzzles to solve. Every week starting from the 8th Jan. 2007, a new box will open.

Point Summary:

Solving 1 "Easy" puzzle = 10 points

Solving 1 "Medium" puzzle = 20 points

Solving 1 "Hard" puzzle = 50 points

Therefore, max. points for each box (just by solving puzzles) = (4x10)+(4x20)+(4x50) = 320 points

Points are also available by:-

Registering = 20 points

Referring others = 10 points per person referred (max. 200 points available by referral, i.e. you will only be awarded for referring 20 people)

Therefore, max. possible points = 20 + (320x4) + (10x20) = 1500 points

More details on how to play

Prizes:

Available prizes

The "Meta" puzzle has only 1 winner. The first person to complete the "Meta" puzzle successfully will have their name printed on every AMD Athalon 64 FX chip manufactured until 31st March 2007.

Box 1 -- 08.01 Time passes...

Easy Puzzles:

Sundial: HELIOS

• Following times can be seen in an image of the Sun: "2:30", "5:00", "12:00", "1:30", "8:00", "7:00"
• Move the sundial to those times

Watch Spring: FIVE

• Click on the watch to reveal the spring
• Spring snaps into place when the beginning of the spring is moved to just below the first "T" of in the first column
• By observing the letters the spring directly crosses through, we get "how many waves"
• In the video, Loki waves 5 times

Mantle Clock: HONEY

• 2 times can be derived from the Box 1 video: "694 + 42 = 7:36" & "114 + 224 = 3:38"
• When observed upside down, they spell "bee gel"
• a.k.a. HONEY

Gears: TIME TRAVEL

• Place gears into correct position as shown:

• This reveals a question: "what did he write about?"
• The video features a picture of a man between the years "1866" & "1946"
Google or Wikipedia (or whatever) reveals man is H.G. Wells

• He wrote about TIME TRAVEL

Medium Puzzles:

Airport: CARTOGRAPHER
• Video reveals a clock with 1-12 in the wrong positions: at 12:00 = 9; at 1:00 = 6; at 2:00 = 4; at 3:00 = 11; at 4:00 = 8; at 5:00 = 12; at 6:00 = 3; at 7:00 = 5; at 8:00 = 10; at 9:00 = 7; at 10:00 = 1; at 11:00 = 2

• Look at the departures in numerical order, i.e. Stockholm at 1pm is the first, & the departure time corresponds to a number on the weird clock

• Find this number letter in the place name, e.g. 1pm = 6, therefore you need the 6th letter in Stockholm - "H"

• Reorder the letters in departure time order

Cuckoos: BIG BEN
• Click on the clocks & a cuckoo pops out & indicates the value to fill in under its clock

• A broken cuckoo = 0

• The 2 missing values can be filled in using the numbers "3" and "7" found in the video

• This reveals co-ordinates "51?30'02.61"N 0?07'28.66W" to BIG BEN
Pocket Watches: GREEN
b>
• I'm telling you which watches to click on by using a telephone dialpad system, i.e. 1 = 1st watch

• Click on 1, 3, 7 & 9, i.e. the watches on the corners of the square

• Click on 2, 4, 6 & 8

• Click 5

• Either from the obvious colour you see or the colour of the disk in the video with a \$ in it, you get GREEN
Current Events: HORIZON
b>
• Connect the photos, from left to right, to these dates: "2/14/06", "1/11/06", "10/23/01", "4/27/98", "5/9/06", "10/2/00", "12/31/96", "11/7/95", "10/29/93", "11/26/96". E.g. 1st photo = "2/14/06"

• That crosses out the following numbers: "3795211"

• Using the video, the Las Vegas sign shows "866", therefore if we join the numbers - "866 3795211"

• This number can be dialled & Loki asks "what line separates the earth from the sky?"
Hard Puzzles:
u>
Starfield: WASHINGTON
b>
• Click on the book on the left hand side & the first time is unknown ( ? ), which the video reveals to be "3:15"

• Use A=1, B=2 & so on, to turn th
hour
u> part of each time into a letter - "CONNECT THE MINUTES" is revealed

• Th
minutes
u> part of each time will give the position of the minute hand on a normal clock, which gives the direction on how to connect the stars, i.e. "3:15" = ":15" as the minute part, therefore connect the star directly right of the Start point

• Provides an outline of the state of WASHINGTON
Calendars: INTERROBANG
b>
• Loki mentions the following months in a particular order: "June", "January", "April", "March", "May" and "February"

• This order corresponds to the order on the scrap note next to the calendar, i.e. June = 1.

• Mark in the dates on the months using the note, to give a

• This gives "?!" a.k.a. an INTERROBANG
Repair Table: WRINKLE
b>
• The video reveals the following images: "dalmations", "trombones", "mice", "ball", "route sign", "playing card - Jack" & "cat"

• Each images has a number associated with it: "101 dalmations", "76 trombones", "3 blind mice", "8 ball", "route 66", "blackjack 21" & "9 lives of a cat"

• Fill in these numbers on the digital clocks

• Using morse code, where - is a dash & | is a dot, WRINKLE is uncovered
Hourglasses: CANDELABRA
b>
• Click Start 3 times so all hourglasses have run out of time

• Click on the 12-sec & 4-sec hourglass switch, & click Start

• Click on the 7-sec & 4-sec hourglass switch, & click Start

• Click on the 7-sec & 4-sec hourglass switch, & click Start

• "GRAINS" is revealed

• The video features hourglasses with @ symbols everywhere, which hints towards emailing "grains@vanishingpointgame.com"

• Emails back with an auto response
Meta Puzzle:
u>

• By completetin
all
u> the above puzzles, a
is unlocked

• At the end of the video, "/on_the_run" flashes a few times

• This revealed "

• Next step was to contact Loki...

• Emailing her at loki@vanishingpointgame.com leads to an email message saying:
Life is a mix of work and play. You've found play...

~L

• Emailing her at loki@microsoft.com leads to an email message saying:
Hmmm. Not quite what I had in mind. Try harder - then listen closely.

~L
• Then some genius had the idea to ring MS & ask to be transferred to Loki

• This connects you to the following message: "Awesome work. All knowledge eventually needs effective diagnosis."

• Put the first letters to give "AWAKENED", which led to "

• The number given on the site requires you to provide a fax number

• It also reveals Loki's name is "L. Kitsume"

• This AT&T building is now an AMD building & the phone number is "408 749 4000" & use extension "x55654" from the fax

• The following message is heard:
Hi, this is Loki. Or rather her electronic footprint left behind on this machine.

Funny how the inanimate world retains traces of things long after they've disappeared, isn't it?

If you're calling about the murmuring rock project, it's on hold indefinitely, unfortunately.
• Google or Wikipedia (or whatever) murmuring rock & you encouter the word/name Lorelei

• Implying Loki's real name is Lorelei Kitsume & that's basically where we're at

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Can some one fill me in here please. Isn't the point of the game to solve the puzzles on the website each week? Why are people emailing and ringing Microsoft and others?

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well that took the living ****... thts it summarised 4 every1 & there 4 the mods 2 add 2 the 1st page or wteva...

n yes i was bored lol

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There are 4 boxes. Each with 4 "Easy", "Medium" & "Hard" puzzles to solve. Every week starting from the 8th Jan. 2007, a new box will open.

Point Summary:

Solving 1 "Easy" puzzle = 10 points

Solving 1 "Medium" puzzle = 20 points

Solving 1 "Hard" puzzle = 50 points

Therefore, max. points for each box (just by solving puzzles) = (4x10)+(4x20)+(4x50) = 320 points

Points are also available by:-

Registering = 20 points

Referring others = 10 points per person referred (max. 200 points available by referral, i.e. you will only be awarded for referring 20 people)

Therefore, max. possible points = 20 + (320x4) + (10x20) = 1500 points

More details on how to play

Prizes:

Available prizes

The "Meta" puzzle has only 1 winner. The first person to complete the "Meta" puzzle successfully will have their name printed on every AMD Athalon 64 FX chip manufactured until 31st March 2007.

Box 1 -- 08.01 Time passes...

Easy Puzzles:

Sundial: HELIOS

• Following times can be seen in an image of the Sun: "2:30", "5:00", "12:00", "1:30", "8:00", "7:00"
• Move the sundial to those times

Watch Spring: FIVE

• Click on the watch to reveal the spring
• Spring snaps into place when the beginning of the spring is moved to just below the first "T" of in the first column
• By observing the letters the spring directly crosses through, we get "how many waves"
• In the video, Loki waves 5 times

Mantle Clock: HONEY

• 2 times can be derived from the Box 1 video: "694 + 42 = 7:36" & "114 + 224 = 3:38"
• When observed upside down, they spell "bee gel"
• a.k.a. HONEY

Gears: TIME TRAVEL

• Place gears into correct position as shown:

• This reveals a question: "what did he write about?"
• The video features a picture of a man between the years "1866" & "1946"
Google or Wikipedia (or whatever) reveals man is H.G. Wells

• He wrote about TIME TRAVEL

Medium Puzzles:

Airport: CARTOGRAPHER
• Video reveals a clock with 1-12 in the wrong positions: at 12:00 = 9; at 1:00 = 6; at 2:00 = 4; at 3:00 = 11; at 4:00 = 8; at 5:00 = 12; at 6:00 = 3; at 7:00 = 5; at 8:00 = 10; at 9:00 = 7; at 10:00 = 1; at 11:00 = 2

• Look at the departures in numerical order, i.e. Stockholm at 1pm is the first, & the departure time corresponds to a number on the weird clock

• Find this number letter in the place name, e.g. 1pm = 6, therefore you need the 6th letter in Stockholm - "H"

• Reorder the letters in departure time order

Cuckoos: BIG BEN
• Click on the clocks & a cuckoo pops out & indicates the value to fill in under its clock

• A broken cuckoo = 0

• The 2 missing values can be filled in using the numbers "3" and "7" found in the video

• This reveals co-ordinates "51?30'02.61"N 0?07'28.66W" to BIG BEN
Pocket Watches: GREEN
b>
• I'm telling you which watches to click on by using a telephone dialpad system, i.e. 1 = 1st watch

• Click on 1, 3, 7 & 9, i.e. the watches on the corners of the square

• Click on 2, 4, 6 & 8

• Click 5

• Either from the obvious colour you see or the colour of the disk in the video with a \$ in it, you get GREEN
Current Events: HORIZON
b>
• Connect the photos, from left to right, to these dates: "2/14/06", "1/11/06", "10/23/01", "4/27/98", "5/9/06", "10/2/00", "12/31/96", "11/7/95", "10/29/93", "11/26/96". E.g. 1st photo = "2/14/06"

• That crosses out the following numbers: "3795211"

• Using the video, the Las Vegas sign shows "866", therefore if we join the numbers - "866 3795211"

• This number can be dialled & Loki asks "what line separates the earth from the sky?"
Hard Puzzles:
u>
Starfield: WASHINGTON
b>
• Click on the book on the left hand side & the first time is unknown ( ? ), which the video reveals to be "3:15"

• Use A=1, B=2 & so on, to turn th
hour
u> part of each time into a letter - "CONNECT THE MINUTES" is revealed

• Th
minutes
u> part of each time will give the position of the minute hand on a normal clock, which gives the direction on how to connect the stars, i.e. "3:15" = ":15" as the minute part, therefore connect the star directly right of the Start point

• Provides an outline of the state of WASHINGTON
Calendars: INTERROBANG
b>
• Loki mentions the following months in a particular order: "June", "January", "April", "March", "May" and "February"

• This order corresponds to the order on the scrap note next to the calendar, i.e. June = 1.

• Mark in the dates on the months using the note, to give a

• This gives "?!" a.k.a. an INTERROBANG
Repair Table: WRINKLE
b>
• The video reveals the following images: "dalmations", "trombones", "mice", "ball", "route sign", "playing card - Jack" & "cat"

• Each images has a number associated with it: "101 dalmations", "76 trombones", "3 blind mice", "8 ball", "route 66", "blackjack 21" & "9 lives of a cat"

• Fill in these numbers on the digital clocks

• Using morse code, where - is a dash & | is a dot, WRINKLE is uncovered
Hourglasses: CANDELABRA
b>
• Click Start 3 times so all hourglasses have run out of time

• Click on the 12-sec & 4-sec hourglass switch, & click Start

• Click on the 7-sec & 4-sec hourglass switch, & click Start

• Click on the 7-sec & 4-sec hourglass switch, & click Start

• "GRAINS" is revealed

• The video features hourglasses with @ symbols everywhere, which hints towards emailing "grains@vanishingpointgame.com"

• Emails back with an auto response
Meta Puzzle:
u>
• By completetin
all
u> the above puzzles, a
is unlocked

• At the end of the video, "/on_the_run" flashes a few times

• This revealed "

• Next step was to contact Loki...

• Emailing her at loki@vanishingpointgame.com leads to an email message saying:

• Emailing her at loki@microsoft.com leads to an email message saying:

• Then some genius had the idea to ring MS & ask to be transferred to Loki

• This connects you to the following message: "Awesome work. All knowledge eventually needs effective diagnosis."

• Put the first letters to give "AWAKENED", which led to "

• The number given on the site requires you to provide a fax number

• It also reveals Loki's name is "L. Kitsume"

• This AT&T building is now an AMD building & the phone number is "408 749 4000" & use extension "x55654" from the fax

• The following message is heard:

• Google or Wikipedia (or whatever) murmuring rock & you encouter the word/name Lorelei

• Implying Loki's real name is Lorelei Kitsume & that's basically where we're at

Good start for a new thread?

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I wonder what that inanimate object is sitting on the desk between the 2 images on the wall.

flamingo

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Guys, you've been AWESOME. I've split this thread, now that the real Vanishing Point game has started. Congratulations on making one of the most popular threads in Neowin's history.