BroChaos Veteran Posted November 30, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 30, 2002 i've heard lots of talk about .net and longhorn and stuff like that. i haven't heard anything for the next OS. do they have plans for OS 11? one thing that worries me about windows is having copy protection and all that crap built into the os and the hardware. does apple have a similar plan? for all we know, a windows OS will be a subscription service before we know it, and then i'll definitely be buying a mac. (well hopefully before then) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtmcgee Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 as far as i know, jobs and apple plan on sticking with what they have now for a while, and just improving on it. there are no plans for OS 11 made public yet. 10.3 will be out sometime next summer, then 10.4 most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 haven't heard of anything about os 11. osx jaguar is just out for a few months right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 1, 2002 Author Veteran Share Posted December 1, 2002 yeah, jag is not too old, X is what, close to a year now? i was just wondering, cuz we know ms' plan up to like 2004, but i didn't know what apple had planned for that far down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerbero Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 I don't know about their future OS plans, but I know that will certainly not include any copy protection in their hardware. As I recall, Apple is one of the companies that are opposed to the whole Palladium idea. And, Apple rely a whole lot on open source software, which basically won't run on Palladium machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted December 1, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 1, 2002 yeah, jag is not too old, X is what, close to a year now? i was just wondering, cuz we know ms' plan up to like 2004, but i didn't know what apple had planned for that far down the road. Beta Release of Mac OS X on Sept. 13 2000 Mac OS X Released on March 24 2001 OS X 10.1 Released on Sept. 25 2001 and Jaguar 10.2 Released on Aug. 21 2002 The Mac OS 10.x point releases should last a few more years then apple will prob be doing the next big update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkleytone Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 OS X is the foundation for the next 10-20 years of Apple OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 OS X is the foundation for the next 10-20 years of Apple OS. 10-20 years?:blink: :blink: :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 Apple is usually very secretive about everything. Its kinda annoying. I think OSx will mostly gain new features over the next while and remain a PC. I don't think MS will fare to well with Palladium and that Home entertainment computer idea. Apple would be smart to stick with what they have, and make small innovations here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 I don't think apple will abandon their current os for a while. They have a lot invested into the "OS X" name as well. But honestly, what can you think of that apple would need to add in the next few years that would require them to release something "totally different" I think OSX is by far the best os out there. I think the next few releases will be to add features, debug code, and speed up the os. They have this great thing going right now. I'd ride that train for a long time. Definately not 10-20 years long...but I really don't think they would release anything majorly different for 4-5+ years. Seeing as how sweet OSX is, I can't imagine how awesome the next big release of OS would be. Right now, OSX is about 3 years ahead of anything windows has, depending on when Longhorn is released, and what Longhorn will really contain. And by the time LH comes out, well we'll be at 10.5 most likely. If you go by their approximate .1.0 release per year (10.3 next year, 10.4 late next year, 10.5 in 2004, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 I don't think apple will abandon their current os for a while. They have a lot invested into the "OS X" name as well. But honestly, what can you think of that apple would need to add in the next few years that would require them to release something "totally different"I think OSX is by far the best os out there. I think the next few releases will be to add features, debug code, and speed up the os. They have this great thing going right now. I'd ride that train for a long time. Definately not 10-20 years long...but I really don't think they would release anything majorly different for 4-5+ years. Seeing as how sweet OSX is, I can't imagine how awesome the next big release of OS would be. Right now, OSX is about 3 years ahead of anything windows has, depending on when Longhorn is released, and what Longhorn will really contain. And by the time LH comes out, well we'll be at 10.5 most likely. If you go by their approximate .1.0 release per year (10.3 next year, 10.4 late next year, 10.5 in 2004, etc) I agree, OS X is kinda like a baby or a "jaguar cub" if you will. It is the most advanced OS out there, maybe a little ahead of itself even, and it has an amazing potential for more great features and improvements. We will be with X for at least 4 more years I think. Who knows what kind of technology improvements we will have then. 2003 is said to be a big year for Apple though, as far as new and impoved products coming out. *Here is a rumored software roadmap for 2003: - Mac OS X 10.3.x 'Panther' - Final Cut Pro 4.x - DVD Studio Pro 2.x - AppleWorks Office Suite - iMovie 3 - iPhoto 2 - iTunes 4 - iWorks - iSync Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad.J Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 Mac OS FX? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 Apple is usually very secretive about everything. Its kinda annoying. this is one of the thing i like about apple actually. keep it secret, and then come out nicely and give us a surprise. i would hate to see different build of os 11 floating out there and everybody's crazy to download it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvorgold Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 one of my friends whos one of the most knowledgable mac users i know was telling me that there was a very good possibility of an apple browser around april 03 (he expects 10.3 to be out then also), but since then he's confirmed that apple wont be creating a browser anymore :( basically as of april 1st os9 wont be able to be booted, so apple will have to do something to classic mode to get it as fast as os9 was, im expecting itunes4 as early as january, imovie3, idvd3..basically most iapps will be updated in january... os 11 wont be out for atleast 5 years (os11 will probably have same gui and such as currently) mac os 10.2.3 is expected before xmas, which will include all the updates from 10.2.1-10.2.2, and also include the 10.2.3 updates...its supposed to basically be a mega update of around 50 megs+ im expecting 10.3 to be even faster than 10.2, probably a few new iapps, and im not too sure what else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted December 2, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 2, 2002 from Mac OS Rumors Improvements to ATA and SCSI drivers are ongoing in OS X, as is the I/O system which they use to transport their data. In 10.2.2 there will be substantial improvements to both performance and reliability for many Mac configurations, but Apple appears to believe that additional significant improvements lie ahead with OS X 10.3 Panther -- due out next year.10.3 will also include some significant new kernel and other low-level optimizations, some of which will be very important for Cocoa application performance. Also due in the Panther timeframe is an Apple-maintained database of hardware drivers for USB and Firewire devices - this could co-incide with USB2 and Gigawire support in new PowerMacs early next year, and would allow OS X to use a Software Update-style driver finder to automatically download and load kernel any required software -- often without a reboot. At an unspecified time in the not-so-distant future, Apple will be rearranging the way several of the various Frameworks that make up most of OS X and provide services to application-level processes to improve performance, particularly on multi-processor systems and for clustering of multiple computers -- preferably second-generation Xserve systems with the RAID rack and forthcoming dual-port 10 Gigabit Ethernet. Also planned is more widespread use of Preemptive Multi-Threading to vastly improve the responsiveness of multiple functions being used simultaneously within a single application - particularly the Finder. Also, the Finder will soon be taking on more sub-processes that will be largely written in Cocoa and allow the user interface to avoid problems running multiple functions (copy, rename, move, Trash, Get Info, etc.) at the same time. In a near-future version of Classic (most likely introduced with 10.3 or 10.4, well after Apple has moved all new Macs to OS X-only booting), integrated with a corresponding update to the old OS -- probably 9.3 -- Classic applications will take on an Aqua-ified appearance as well as limited OS X-native features like direct access of some hardware devices through the OS X kernel. OS 9.3 would not be a bootable operating system but would instead be specifically designed to run only under Classic. Additionally, direct access to Classic's menubar for use of Control Panels and the like would be eliminated in favor of a new OS X Preferences panel that would integrate most if not all necessary settings functions to replace such Classic-specific controls. Increasing window resizing performance remains an important goal for OS X development, and along with other significant improvements to Quartz/QE, is expected to at least double the improvements made to UI performance between 10.1-10.2 by 2004. New low-level security features will further watchdog all running processes on the system and look for suspicious activity. If such activity is found, particularly amongst BSD processes, server processes, or kernel extensions it will be reported to the user and if possible the process in question will be suspended pending user permission to enable/disable it. We have much, much more of this sort of information to dispense in the weeks ahead; in the mean time, next up on our agenda is much discussion of forthcoming Digital Lifestyle devices including Apple's efforts to introduce DLD's for Pictures and Movies -- a Photo Frame smart display in the 10-12 inch range, and a DVD-R/QuickTime-based DLD designed to work with TVs and HDTVs based around the iPod hardware platform....stay tuned! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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