KC Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 This is a dumb question but I hear people all the time talk about the .NET framework. People talking about how they just got done installing it ect. Well what is it. And why would a person want it. and where can I get it from? Thanks Long live the 'win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Makki Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 What Is the .NET Framework? The .NET Framework is the programming model of the .NET environment for building, deploying, and running Web-based applications, smart client applications, and XML Web services. It manages much of the plumbing, enabling developers to focus on writing the business logic code for their applications. The .NET Framework includes the common language runtime and class libraries. Common Language Runtime The common language runtime is responsible for run time services such as language integration, security enforcement, memory, process, and thread management. In addition, it has a role at development time when features such as life-cycle management, strong type naming, cross-language exception handling, dynamic binding, and so on, reduce the amount of code that a developer must write to turn business logic into a reusable component. Class Libraries Base classes provide standard functionality such as input/output, string manipulation, security management, network communications, thread management, text management, user interface design features, and other functions. The Microsoft ADO.NET data classes support persistent data management and include SQL classes for manipulating persistent data stores through a standard SQL interface. XML classes enable XML data manipulation and XML searching and translations. The Microsoft ASP.NET classes support the development of Web-based applications and XML Web services. The Windows Forms classes support the development of Windows-based smart client applications. Together, the class libraries provide a common, consistent development interface across all languages supported by the .NET Framework. Download .NET Framework Source .NET Framework Home page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 [Moved here...] -xStainDx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AOXOMOXOA Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 so i think the question is.. would the average person need it. and what would it do for him/her? and i also would like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 (edited) Err applications writen in visual studio .net maybe.. Common Language Runtime so think of it as a VB runtime library.Overnet, the new serverless edonkey needs the .net framework. And incedently, installing the .net framework for some reason f*cked bf1942, after 10minutes online it reboots the pc. Didnt before I installed .net. Grrr. Edited December 4, 2002 by Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 KC Posted December 4, 2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2002 so basicly if I was going to deploy the .net service on my network this would be a tool needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 wyoung76 Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 so basicly if I was going to deploy the .net service on my network this would be a tool needed. If you wanted to run any programs or web services which are compiled for .NET, yes. I prefer to think of the .NET redistributables as being much like the Java VM. I'd suggest just installing it on all the computers you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 KC Posted December 4, 2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2002 seem's like a fairly lage file to install on all my computer. Even if I don't need it. maybe some day when I have lot a time will download and play around with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tim Dorr Veteran Posted December 5, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2002 well, unless you've got visual studio .net and dev your own apps, there isn't any "playing around" to do :) It's JUST like the java vm, you just install it to use for other programs, that's the only benefit you get as a user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pizza Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 I guess it's for new web services or something...you can get it from www.windowsupdate.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CyberKewl Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 You'll need the .NET FrameWork redistributable file which is about 20mb to run .NET applications. There's more and more applications that requires this framework to be installed, so sooner or later you're gonna need it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 protomor Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 too bad .net always crashes and eventually cripples my computer so bad I have to format. and I wanna run coolmon so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PabUK Veteran Posted December 6, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2002 It is gonna be a while yet before I write .NET programs, just because of this stupid large framework which very few people have or are prepared to get. Future version of Windows will obviously have it installed, much as the VB runtimes are in current versions. I think it will be then you will see a lot more software that requires it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Trust Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Another M$ invention to make the things more bigger and slower :D And yes, sooner or later you will need it to install it... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 robinmthomas Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Again you guys are playing the part of the typical FUD-User --- too bad .net always crashes and eventually cripples my computer so bad I have to format Really? How did .NET crash? Was it .NET that crashed? Or was it a 3rd party company who wrote something using the .NET framework? or was it a beta copy of Windows.NET Server? Why wouldn't you install it when you are installing stuff from windowsupdate.microsoft.com? You have the Java Runtime installed since all the P2P use it? And trust me the JRT is a lot slower than .NET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glowstick Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 The framework can't cripple your computer. It's a runtime environment and a set of libraries that just sit on your disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 too bad .net always crashes and eventually cripples my computer so bad I have to format. and I wanna run coolmon so bad Why don' you realize we're not talking about Windows .NET Server 2003, and We're Talking about the Microsoft .NET Framework, two totally different things... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 It is gonna be a while yet before I write .NET programs, just because of this stupid large framework which very few people have or are prepared to get. Future version of Windows will obviously have it installed, much as the VB runtimes are in current versions. I think it will be then you will see a lot more software that requires it. It ain't that big, i mean JAVA is lik 12MB. .NET is 20MB, doesn't sound like a big difference to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 amERICa Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 You have the Java Runtime installed since all the P2P use it? And trust me the JRT is a lot slower than .NET. how so? im not arguing im curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 You have the Java Runtime installed since all the P2P use it? And trust me the JRT is a lot slower than .NET. how so? im not arguing im curious. .NET is Significantly Faster and more robust that JAVA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PabUK Veteran Posted December 6, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2002 It ain't that big, i mean JAVA is lik 12MB. .NET is 20MB, doesn't sound like a big difference to me. To you perhaps. Look at it this way - I distribute my apps over the internet. A lot of my users are still on dial-up so there connections are slow. My installers vary between 60KB and 1.2MB. The users are never going to download an extra 20MB file just to be able to run my applications, and I don't blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 akaj23 Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Another M$ invention to make the things more bigger and slower Another retarded-ass comment to make you look bigger and stupider. :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 akaj23 Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 To you perhaps. Look at it this way - I distribute my apps over the internet. A lot of my users are still on dial-up so there connections are slow. My installers vary between 60KB and 1.2MB. The users are never going to download an extra 20MB file just to be able to run my applications, and I don't blame them. You're right; that kinda ****es me off, too. However, for the average end-user, I think spending a couple hours downloading the framework is worth it. Of course, not everyone is going to be an average end-user, so from your point of view, it's not really the best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 robinmthomas Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 To you perhaps. Look at it this way - I distribute my apps over the internet. A lot of my users are still on dial-up so there connections are slow. My installers vary between 60KB and 1.2MB. The users are never going to download an extra 20MB file just to be able to run my applications, and I don't blame them That's the beauty of .NET (and for that matter Java) - They download it once and all developers can take advantage of it. Or some 3rd party installer (like P2P, as I mentioned) installs it for you. Starting with longhorn it will be built in, so it is only for the next few years that you have to worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Trust Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Another retarded-ass comment to make you look bigger and stupider. :happy: Another intelligent post by JaggedFlame :blink: :rolleyes: :woot: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Steven Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 It ain't that big, i mean JAVA is lik 12MB. .NET is 20MB, doesn't sound like a big difference to me. To you perhaps. Look at it this way - I distribute my apps over the internet. A lot of my users are still on dial-up so there connections are slow. My installers vary between 60KB and 1.2MB. The users are never going to download an extra 20MB file just to be able to run my applications, and I don't blame them. if ya user truely wants an application, they'll download it. AOL is a great example. 35Million People...most on dialup and that application is 45MB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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This is a dumb question but I hear people all the time talk about the .NET framework. People talking about how they just got done installing it ect.
Well what is it. And why would a person want it.
and where can I get it from?
Thanks
Long live the 'win
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