fenixDG Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Well this has been annoying me for the past few days so I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with this little problem. I'm a Mac newbie you could say. Owned PCs for around 10 years but had the iMac for only 2 months. Everything has been perfect until I installed the 10.2.2 update. My problem is that sometimes apps will take only a few seconds to start, which is normal. But they will also randomly take 20-30+ seconds for seemingly no reason. As an example I use Remote Desktop to connect to my Windows XP machine, the client takes around 2 seconds to start normally. But just a few minutes ago I started it and it took around 50 seconds. :( I installed a CPU monitor and set it to start when I login to see if something was hogging the cpu. From what I can tell the Mac sits there doing nothing whatsoever during the delays, the machine just idles along with the icon bouncing in the dock for all it's worth. :huh: Any ideas? 'cause I don't know enough to even think about where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted December 8, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2002 crack open Terminal.app, and run top. see what happens during the startup of the app and what's taking up the proccessor power. maybe it's just a lot of disk paging...do you have a lot of memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCe| Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 how do you use remote desktop connection in jaguar?? i just mounted the network drives and use the files from there, i didn't know you could desktop connect :), would some be kind as to show me how?? or point me to a link?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickedkitten Veteran Posted December 8, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2002 how do you use remote desktop connection in jaguar?? i just mounted the network drives and use the files from there, i didn't know you could desktop connect :), would some be kind as to show me how?? or point me to a link?? If I remember correctly, you can get the client off the microsoft site, it's just called remote desktop connection http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/rdc/...sp?navindex=s9b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenixDG Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 I ran top and 'Window Man' was taking up around 20% of the cpu time while I started Remote Desktop. top itself was using the next highest at around 6%. Nothing else seemed to be using cpu time during the delay. At least nothing over a percent or two. I've got 768mb of memory and nothing seemed to be paging to disk, top showed I had 415mb free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessejlt Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Woh! WindowMan is taking ~20% of your cpu?!? Go ahead and open terminal, note the PID next to WindowMan, the PID is the very first column in top. Then do kill xxxx Where xxxx is the PID of WindowMan. Now before you do this make sure you've saved any documents because it's going to essentially log you out and back into Jag...Think of it as the ghetto reboot. I have a G3 600 iBook and WindowMan takes < 2% of my cpu...so something is up with it on your machine. Maybe and application you're running has a memory whole or some damn thing. jesse ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCe| Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 this is thight ist just like running my pc only its on an ibook :) is there a version for pc that will let you log on to you mac?? huh huh is there? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenixDG Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 I tried what you said jessejlt and it worked like an instant fix. Unfortunately, whatever is causing it worked its magic again after a few minutes :( Because the Mac had the 'new and shiny' element after I'd bought it, I guess in my excitement I've installed something which isn't playing nice anymore. I've read some interesting posts here on how to partition on the Mac which I'm thinking of following. Having my data seperate from the OS like my PC is too tempting to pass up. If I still have this problem after formatting then I'll just have to annoy you all again I'm afraid :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenixDG Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 iCe|: I think this will do what you want http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcg...id=16699&db=mac. You'd need a VNC client on the PC side of course. I haven't tried it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessejlt Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 It's actaully really easy to trace the problamatic app. Go into your login itmes and remove everything. Reboot. Make sure no apps are running, then start one of the apps that you usually run. Run it for a few and see if any problems arrize, do this until a problem does arrise, then you've found your crap app. If you have the Apple Developer Tools installed you can run MallucDebug and directly trace down faulty apps by testing each one. jesse ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenixDG Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 Although I'll probably partition the drive in the next week I tried what you said. Thought it'd be handy to know what causes it before I go and do it all over again ;) From what I can tell, Entourage is the app which isn't playing nice?! As long as I don't start it everything seems to work fine. After starting it things go a bit wrong very soon after. I haven't heard of Entourage doing anything like this to anyone else so I must be the 'lucky' one. I'm going to try importing all my mails to the standard Mail app and see if things correct themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkleytone Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 i had this problem also with jaguar. it started to really **** me off because i had formatted and done a clean install. the reason why it was doing it became clear to me when i began to format and try again. i booted the the cd, then formatted the drive. on going back to drive information, it still said that the drive had used space. i didnt understand. then it hit me. when i first installed jaguar, i formatted and installed, BUT i did not reboot after formatting. first it doesnt tell you to, second because im dumb sometimes. i then rebooted the mac and started to the cd again. i installed jag and havent had a peep of the problem since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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