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#1 ThePitt

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 15:00

The author of the Windows Vista keygen that was reported yesterday has admitted that the program does not actually work. Here is the initial announcement of the original release of the keygen, and here is the followup post in which the same author acknowledges that the program is fake. Apparently, the keygen program does legitimately attack Windows Vista keys via brute force, but the chances of success are too low for this to be a practical method. Quote from the author: 'Everyone who said they got a key is probably lying or mistaken!



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Edited by shockz, 03 March 2007 - 15:32.



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Posted 03 March 2007 - 15:05

awwwwwwwww :p

#3 Smigit

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 15:07

he isnt just covering his own back now is he? This comes after he said the "exploit" was discovered as an accident while he practiced his coding *cough*

#4 The_Decryptor

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 15:12

hahaha

Yeah brute force will work, but it will take forever, it would be quicker to get a job delivering pizza's and earn enough to buy it legally.

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 15:43

technically, it could theoretically get the right key the first time it tries it and could theoretically get the right key in a year. the reason why it because it uses random keys and just sees if they work. the chances, however, of it working are very slim. the reason why is because it tests all letters a-z and all numbers 0-9 (last i checked. the product keys don't use all of those so it might've been modified not to). that gives it 3625=808281277000000000000000000000000000000 possible keys. now it's not gonna test them all, but at least an xp key has many less characters. iirc, it only uses 26, so that means 2625=236773830000000000000000000000000000 combinations. it's a much smaller number. that leaves us with 808044503000000000000000000000000000000 keys that, if vista uses the same character set as xp, are definitely invalid. if it's left to run forever, however it will check them. not only that, but it's much more complex than just having the right letters, of course, so there's not nearly that many valid keys, making the number of invalid ones much bigger.

#6 Larney

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 16:46

There are OEM "hacks" coming out now anyway so some worthless little bruteforce keygen is quickly going to become unpopular.

#7 gertin

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 17:19

There are OEM "hacks" coming out now anyway so some worthless little bruteforce keygen is quickly going to become unpopular.

The OEM hack is also 100% working and it only takes like 5 minutes to apply it. Vista even passes WGA afterwards.

#8 XerXis

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 17:24

yeah well, who believed that anyways :p

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 17:26

the "bruteforce" crack is a fake... not that i have been researching or anything

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 17:32

technically, it could theoretically get the right key the first time it tries it and could theoretically get the right key in a year. the reason why it because it uses random keys and just sees if they work. the chances, however, of it working are very slim. the reason why is because it tests all letters a-z and all numbers 0-9 (last i checked. the product keys don't use all of those so it might've been modified not to). that gives it 3625=808281277000000000000000000000000000000 possible keys. now it's not gonna test them all, but at least an xp key has many less characters. iirc, it only uses 26, so that means 2625=236773830000000000000000000000000000 combinations. it's a much smaller number. that leaves us with 808044503000000000000000000000000000000 keys that, if vista uses the same character set as xp, are definitely invalid. if it's left to run forever, however it will check them. not only that, but it's much more complex than just having the right letters, of course, so there's not nearly that many valid keys, making the number of invalid ones much bigger.

There are only 24 possible characters per digit in a Vista key, so it's more like.
24^25 = 3.20096586 * 10^34

#11 zzap

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 23:38

Why would users report that they tried and successfully got the key if they didn't? I wouldn't see the point of users lying about it.

#12 Olemus

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 23:41

Why are people boggling my mind with maths ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh run away mathss

#13 Toology

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 23:44

Why would users report that they tried and successfully got the key if they didn't? I wouldn't see the point of users lying about it.


They could lie just be be bragging pricks. "OLOOL!!!111! iN j00r f4c3 m$11!!!" It's sad but it's very probable.

#14 zzap

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 00:06

Bragging that they used someone else's method and it worked? I don't really see anything to brag about there... but you're probably right.

#15 Northgrove

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 01:01

Heh, I thought it sounded weird in that other thread where I brought up the math example... There's just so insanely many combinations with these characters and one of 36 (26+10) values for each character, that the few MS may have actually activated is like a drop in the ocean.

There are only 24 possible characters per digit in a Vista key, so it's more like.
24^25 = 3.20096586 * 10^34

Hm, do they only use 14-16 letters in the alphabet or so? I can imagine 0 and 1 of the digits are skipped due to similarity with O and I.